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[U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« on: February 10, 2016, 07:02 »

Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaxA8DnQcA&feature=youtu.be


"UV-Max" : Fully win the game in Ultra-Violence with 100% kills as a conqueror


After a bunch of failed trials to Bullet Dance UV-Max, I concluded that there are some master traits
of which are impossible to get UV-max, as clearing Unholy Cathedral without Berserk requires HR2+ and Fin1+.

So I gave up the original UV-Max project;
Now my upcoming UV-Max project will contain only possible master traits UV-max run.

Anyway, Ammochain is an extremely powerful build yet.



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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 d, level 16 Arch-Vile Chaos Mjr General Marine,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 166017 turns and scored 418915 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 52 minutes and 5 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 1231 out of 1231 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Conqueror Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ........................................................}.#
  .........................................................|#
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 95/60   Experience 126955/16
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  Rel->Rel->SoB->SoB->TH->TH->MAc->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->HR->HR->DM->HR->SoB->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [6] (AOP)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   laser rifle (1d7)x5 [29/40] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   cerberus protective boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   BFG 9000 (11d6) [169/169] (B2P1T2)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] hyperblaster (2d4)x3 [40/40] (T1)
    [b] Trigun (3d6) [6/6]
    [c] Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%)
    [d] Azrael's Scythe (9d9)
    [e] shotgun shell (x70)
    [f] power cell (x70)
    [g] power cell (x70)
    [h] power cell (x70)
    [i] power cell (x70)
    [j] power cell (x70)
    [k] power cell (x70)
    [l] power cell (x70)
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] homing phase device
    [r] power battery (x120)
    [s] power battery (x120)
    [t] power battery (x120)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 100%
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 100%

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    115 former humans
    78 former sergeants
    54 former captains
    145 imps
    102 demons
    337 lost souls
    54 cacodemons
    45 hell knights
    74 barons of hell
    35 arachnotrons
    14 former commandos
    40 pain elementals
    33 revenants
    28 mancubi
    40 arch-viles
    2 nightmare imps
    6 nightmare cacodemons
    7 elite former humans
    5 elite former sergeants
    5 elite former captains
    2 elite former commandos
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  On level 7 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he ran for his life from acid!
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  Level 10 was a hard nut to crack!
  Level 11 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  On level 12 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  On level 12 he assembled a cerberus boots!
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  Level 14 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he found the Subtle Knife!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the Azrael's Scythe!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he found the Acid Spitter!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Trigun!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter Limbo!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear Limbo from evil!
  Level 22 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack.
 Chain fire ( full ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : John Carmack (mortally wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John
 Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The
 missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. You are hit!
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 You dodge! Boom!
 You dodge!
 Chain fire ( initial ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You defeated John
 Carmack! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 33 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:

 33 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 23 killed the bitch and survived.
 9 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 07:03 by papilio »
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2016, 08:01 »

You are a machine man...

I hope KK creates enough tough challenges for JH so that you will never get bored with playing that.  >.<
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 18:15 »

Nice job.
2 hours is quite fast, even with unlimited ammo.


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After a bunch of failed trials to Bullet Dance UV-Max, I concluded that there are some master traits
of which are impossible to get UV-max, as clearing Unholy Cathedral without Berserk requires HR2+ and Fin1+.

While Bullet dance looks terrible, nothing is impossible !
Aren't Tac boots (A) + some good (read "fast") armor enough for the cathedral ?  (else, nuking it is a good alternative :D)

Speaking of nukes, I wonder where you spent that early nuke you found in your MAc run.  (Didn't watch after Hell's armory, except for the a quick cathedral check)
Is it a question of "fair play" with monsters ?  Or did you want the scythe ?


@Hell's armory : Too bad you don't try to get the key :(  it's worth it !


also, looks like you don't use the wait command when waiting for an enemy to come  (run in direction '5')
Best used tweaking the config.lua file :
-- Defines the maximum repeat for the run command when waiting.
MaxWait          = 10000

it saves some time, so maybe you should consider using it.
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2016, 18:31 »


Preparing enough speed to clear UC with MBD requires a lot of luck.

The only possible itemset would be chainsaw(T) + tactical armor(A) + tactical boots(A). (0.6s/mov w/o HR, 0.65s/atk w/ Fin2)
After MBD, you get WK2 at least lv11, and tactical armor/boots must be built afterwards,
so you must hold (at least 4) A-modpacks for very long period of time,
making inventory management disastrously difficult.

Nuking would be a cool alternative, but it also requires a lot of luck.
(you must find a T-bomb and inv glove nearby the entry to UC)



@What did you mean to get the 'key' in Hell's armory?
Opening the hatch and kill shambler? I thought I did that in the run.


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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 06:08 »

IIRC, you don't need the globe to nuke the level.
just enter, drop the nuke, say goodbye, ???, and profit :)

HA key is damageless Armory.  It gives you a 2nd rare mod, which IIRC, is always a nano (alias imbalanced cheat-like free ammochain which doesn't even block EE xD)
See demo here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnbkqBaxVA4  It also demonstrates the efficiency of waiting :)


btw, I forgot how getting masteries can delay WK... one of the reasons why I don't get them anymore, I guess.
just find a nuke (or nuke weapon), or Malek's / phaseshift stuff then !

I'd gladly try the challenge myself but... something tells me i'll hate BD too much and get pissed off
adding TH to weapons which you already spend your time reloading looks like a "weird" buff to me ^^
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 06:58 »

IIRC, you don't need the globe to nuke the level.
just enter, drop the nuke, say goodbye, ???, and profit :)
Nope. At least according to the Wiki, leaving a floor before the nuke goes off does not credit the player with the kills on the floor (and, presumably, also prevents the level from being considered completed). This way, the 100% killrate (and as such, papilio's UV-Max challenge) would be lost.
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 15:48 »

Yes, you must 'survive' the nuke to achieve the killrate and level completion.

Also, nano pack is not guaranteed to be generated in Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab's reward.
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 05:08 »

Just checked with tourist mode : the wiki is right :(  My bad.
Maybe I read the request to grant kills somewhere, and mixed it up.


About the nano, in HA, I think I got exceptions, but empirically, I'd say I used to get one "most of the time".
It didn't seem to me like it just doubles the chances.  Maybe the second drop is better ?  Maybe I was just lucky.

Anyway, this remains an interresting challenge, and the reward is worth it
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 05:38 »

Also, I have a naive question about your challenges :
do you implicitly consider that you have to "rush" you mastery to get it at level 7 (or maybe 8, for SOG3 ?), and use the trait benefits, or would you consider the possibility of taking it later (say, after more useful picks), and ignore the trait (e.g.  taking BD, but playing shootgun all the game long).

I guess the point of your challenges is to stay "roleplay", but I've never been much of a roleplay addict, so I'm curious :)
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Re: [U/YaVP/YaCO/YaFW] Ammochain UV-Max (+Video)
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 06:17 »

"Done" ^^
Well... I'm quite sure it wouldn't count from your point of view, but I cleared the game 100% with BD, right ?

Using my usual build (except I usually play scout, for the free ring of speed, and like to take a few levels in HR, EE or... Ber %#§@&!)

Core : SOB3->FIN2->WK2
then, 4 free picks among non-blocked stats.  I always go for Fin3 and SOB4, which leaves 2 picks unused : took juggler and TaN
Then, 5 (useless) mastery picks :o)) SoG2->DG; TH; MBD


Nothing exceptionnal for this run.
Good drops : laser rifle on floor 5, blaster in the vaults (for the roleplay part ? ^^)
Bad drops : only a few mods. Also got crap in Deimos lab (Firestorm which I didn't even grab and sniper... for my Tac RL which I couldn't assemble before the mortuary, since I didn't got B drops :( :( :(   )


Got my tac boots as quickly as usual, but I guess Phobos lab must contain the 2nd A mod for it.  Well, at least, I found another A before UC, so I had the +25%.

Played mostly with regular shotty, and laser rifle for hard targets (as usual).
The vault's unique was Charch's null pointer ~~  At least, left vault gave me a blaster.
The other good stuff were dropped very late (phaseshift @Hell 6, Nyarlathothings @Pits...)  I don't count my quite early Gothic as a useful drop, since I didn't get the mod to make it cerberus, and used it very sparesely (Green armors ftw !)

I had a Duelist armor for UC, but I think going armorless, or with a a-modded green one could have done the trick, no ?  I might be used to scouts too much... dunno :)




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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Adrian Carmack,
 level 16 Apostle Marshal Marine,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 1808381 turns and scored 421685 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 17 minutes and 5 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 1380 out of 1380 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

 He saved himself once.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Conqueror Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  ....................................................|}|...#
  ....................................................|.....#
  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 46/60   Experience 129099/16
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +4  ToDmg Melee +4

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Tough as nails   (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 4)
    Son of a gun     (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)
    Bullet Dance     (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->SoB->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->Jug->TaN->SoG->SoG->Fin->SoB->DG->TH->MBD->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   gothic armor [8/8] (103%) (APT)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   blaster (2d5) [2/10] (P1S1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Nyarlaptotep's Boots [6/6] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   laser rifle (1d7)x5 [29/40] (T1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] shotgun (11d3) [1/1] (P3T2)
    [b] tactical rocket launcher (6d6) [5/5] (T1)
    [c] BFG 9000 (10d6) [60/100] (F1)
    [d] green armor [1/1] (89%)
    [e] phaseshift armor [2/2] (63%)
    [f] plasma shield [0/0] (48%)
    [g] Angelic Armor [0/7] (0%)
    [h] Azrael's Scythe (9d9)
    [i] shotgun shell (x70)
    [j] rocket (x14)
    [k] rocket (x3)
    [l] power cell (x42)
    [m] small med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] phase device
    [p] Enviroboots [0]
    [q] shell box (x100)
    [r] power battery (x120)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 30% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 30% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    103 former humans
    126 former sergeants
    80 former captains
    108 imps
    113 demons
    353 lost souls
    84 cacodemons
    65 hell knights
    66 barons of hell
    61 arachnotrons
    34 former commandos
    35 pain elementals
    36 revenants
    49 mancubi
    44 arch-viles
    12 nightmare demons
    2 bruiser brothers
    2 shamblers
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  He sounded the alarm on level 15!
  On level 15 he found the Enviroboots!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17, hell froze over!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the Azrael's Scythe!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 20 he assembled a tactical rocket launcher!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  On level 22 he found the Nyarlaptotep's Boots!
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Targeting canceled.
 You swap your weapons instantly!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (mortally wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (mortally wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack
 dies. Congratulations! You defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 1362 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1112 of those were killed.
 9 of those were killed by something unknown.
 40 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 12 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 187 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 12 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 122 killed the bitch and survived.
 53 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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