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[yuriks]

Wikipedia is pathetic. I see lot's of articles being deleted every day because of 'non-notability', but the articles for each single Pokemon can stay because the admins are anime nerds. (no offense anyone =P)

[DisaffectedBeta]

The more I learn the more the whole wiki model sorta breaks down for me.  It seems more how many people you have in your clique who are willing to defend an entry, how many friends this entry has on admin, how popular or contraversial it currently is (even a slightly less than current entry is more likely to let its inaccuracies slip below the radar).

I don't blame people for getting worried about the current administration's penchant for revisionism, but on a wider scope I think wikipedia itself is moving away from what it originally purported to be.  I think this was inevitable though; the more popular it was to become, the more likely it would be that people would find a way to manipulate the system.

[Santiago Zapata]

A funny thing, I always thought all those wikipedia-clone sites based on content stealing bots where useless and nonsense... what now? they are the only way to retrieve lost articles!

Anybody knows a serious initiative against the certain path to death wikipedia has taken?

THIS IS MADNESS!

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

Googlepedia :P

[SaThaRiel]

Well, i understand wikipedia in some way. They accepted any crap that was coming up from everyone. Which caused a load of wrong informations and stupid entries...they were going to a big private homepage hoster.
Now they changed this and so every article (especially new ones) must be validated, useful, informative and also have a special format. On the counter part this makes it really hard to establish new articles in wikipedia and also keep them there. 7DRL was sadly one of them.
Ok, i have to say that i know one of the main admins from wikipedia personally - i will ask him what can be done to get the article into wikipedia and also have it included there after the next "update" ;) But i can do this earliest in one or two weeks - hes not around atm (holiday).
I will keep you informed about this.

Meanwhile: http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=7DRL - i think a better site to contribute as wikipedia since its more specific :)

[DisaffectedBeta]

An interesting article from wired:

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker?currentPage=all

Regarding a search engine that helps find out WHO made anonymous changes to articles, and the search engine it's talking about:

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/

[SaThaRiel]

Ok, talked to a wiki admin (luckily one of the english version ones :) ) and he said he cant understand that it was deleted - but it was and the discussion wont end without proof of need/usability. An easy and reliable way to proof the usability of an article is when you can give references like news articles in news papers/magazines and the like.
I tried to search for them and only found those:

Some news on "roguelikes", not specific 7DRL: http://www.armchairarcade.com/neo/node/1185
The 7DRL article on roguebasin: http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=7DRL
The contest on the google newsgroup: http://angband.oook.cz/rgrd.php?q=7drl&w=1&o=0
Another 7DRL unspecific site: http://www.roguetemple.com/

Sure the 7DRL games from chaosforge should be a good reference too. Maybe someone has news articles in other languages? I saw a picture from a polish computer magazine somehwere here in the forum ("screenshot"), maybe this can be used too.

So 7DRL can be put back into wikipedia, but i will need you help ;) Give some links to aritcles about 7DRL (hope you can find some).
The pokemon problem is just because there are much more ppl knowing this stuff than ppl knowing RLs and the 7DRL contest. Thats why pokemon stays while 7DRL got deleted. Also pokemons have a lot of resources in the net.