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[vitreal]

Well cept for the first area where you need to use a pistol to get a shotgun.
shotguns need some love or i need sum strategy. Ive played AoMk and its easier to play than shotguns only. now if my marine had one of thse http://www.lakesideguns.com/c3gallery/sweepers.html
life would be much easier :D
but at any rate. i gave it my best. (no save scumming)
EDIT: Also i ran out of ammo... wasnt much for the shotgun around.
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Vitreal, level 6 Human Soldier, killed by a lost soul
 on level 15 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 69279 turns and scored 31352 points.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 258 out of 284 hellspawn. (91%)
 He held his right to remain violent.

 He stormed the Chained Court.
 He fought on Hell's Arena.
 He became a champion of Hell's Arena!
 He faced The Wall.
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/60   Experience 14447/6
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 1)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Reloader       (Level 2)

  TaN->TaN->Iro->TaN->Rel->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   double shotgun (6d3)x2 [0/2]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [8/8] (96%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   double shotgun (6d3)x2 [0/2]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] small med-pack
    [b] weapon damage mod
    [c] weapon magazine mod

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    43 former humans
    23 former sergeants
    11 former captains
    22 imps
    22 demons
    24 lost souls
    32 cacodemons
    3 hell knights
    2 arachnotrons
    5 pain elementals
    2 arch-viles

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 12 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 15 he finally was killed by a lost soul.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The lost soul misses you.
 The lost soul hits you.
 The lost soul misses you.
 You miss the lost soul. The lost soul misses you. The lost soul hits you.
 The lost soul hits you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The
 lost soul hits you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The
 lost soul hits you.
 You miss the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The
 lost soul hits you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul misses you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

  He's the first brave soul to have ventured into Hell...

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[Potman]

You should totally go to Shottyman first if you're playing on shotguns. After that, Hellrunner will serve you well, because it both allows you to move-reload even faster, and gives you some additional dodge chance - which is already pretty high since you'll be on coward all the time.

[vitreal]

well i had been trying to go shottyman previous times before but i hadnt discovered coward yet. always had it on cautious which was getting me killed by the 3rd level (i came to realize accuracy + shotgun is pointless). guess ill have another go at it. i survived that far by swapping supershotguns which helped me wipe the two arcvilles i saw in a few momments. My plan was to get an advanced double shotgun and put a damage mod and up the magazine a bit.

I would probably have made it alot further if hadnt ran out of ammunition. as you can tell i ran completely out of everything and was reduced to beating lost souls with my fists.

I always loved Doom's shotgun and doom 2's super shotgun (which is better than the chaingun). Kinda saddens me that it isnt hardly a match for chainguns in the rougelike.

[Potman]

My plan was to get an advanced double shotgun and put a damage mod and up the magazine a bit.

It's not a plan because it relies too much on luck. If you happen to find one, though, dance.

I always loved Doom's shotgun and doom 2's super shotgun (which is better than the chaingun). Kinda saddens me that it isnt hardly a match for chainguns in the rougelike.

Totally agreed here. I liked chaingun too, but always preferred shotguns over it. Shotties totally need a massive boost for the next version, though.

[Silhar]

Totally agreed here. I liked chaingun too, but always preferred shotguns over it. Shotties totally need a massive boost for the next version, though.

I agree. I hope so Kornel reads it and makes notes ;).

[Malek Deneith]

Ive played AoMk and its easier to play than shotguns only.

Correct me if I'm wrong but AoMk is considered one of easiest challenges since the arrival of mods ;)

Shotties totally need a massive boost for the next version, though.

The problem is how to do such boos without:
a)breaking shotguns
b)messing up their flavor.
Shottyman was a try at powering up shotguns but it seems that it's not enough :/

[Potman]

Let's make normal and combat shotguns more accurate - not too much, though - and add some damage to double shotgun. That'd do it, me reckons, without neither breaking them nor messing up with their flavor.

[Malek Deneith]

Let's make normal and combat shotguns more accurate - not too much, though

Shotguns hit a l w a y s. Period.

[Potman]

Yeah, but isn't it possible to hit the same guy more than once with one blast? Like, when I shoot a zombie point-blank it'll take tons more damage than from afar? Yes, well I meant that we'd make it spread less, meaning that your main target will be hit more times with a single shot.

[Malek Deneith]

Oh you meant spread... makes sense now...
On an related note - shit... just killed an marine that found adv. dbl. shotty >< Literally seconds after

[Zeb]

I'm a huge shotgun fanboy, and even use them in DoomRL. I hope at the very least that Kornal will change the 8x shell stacks to 30x stacks and make them spawn more often once you no longer have sergeants around. 4 shots of a Double Shotty doesn't get you very far at level 2X, especially when you only get one or two of those per level. :-P