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TheBP:
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DoomRL (v.0.9.8.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Sandy Peterson, level 3 Former Human Corporal, killed by a hell knight
on level 7 of the Phobos base.
He survived 23667 turns and scored 17072 points.
He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.

He killed 72 out of 86 hellspawn. (84%)

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

Health -3/70 Experience 3611/3
ToHit +0 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

Ironman (Level 2)
Tough as nails (Level 1)

Iro->TaN->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

[a] [ Armor ] blue armor [1/2] (47%)
[b] [ Weapon ] chaingun (1d6)x5 [40/50]
[c] [ Boots ] steel boots [2/2] (94%)
[d] [ Prepared ] double shotgun (6d3)x2 [2/2]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

[a] combat knife (1d6)
[b] combat shotgun (6d3) [3/5]
[c] 10mm ammo (x50)
[d] 10mm ammo (x100)
[e] 10mm ammo (x100)
[f] 10mm ammo (x100)
[g] 10mm ammo (x100)
[h] 10mm ammo (x100)
[i] 10mm ammo (x100)
[j] 10mm ammo (x100)
[k] 10mm ammo (x100)
[l] shotgun shell (x48)
[m] shotgun shell (x50)
[n] shotgun shell (x50)
[o] shotgun shell (x50)
[p] rocket (x4)
[q] weapon reload mod
[r] weapon speed mod
[s] weapon speed mod

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

15 former humans
8 former sergeants
8 former captains
7 imps
11 demons
13 lost souls
3 hell knights

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 7 he finally was killed by a hell knight.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

You don't have enough place in your backpack. There is 10mm ammo (x30)
lying here.
Unknown command. Press "?" for help. There is 10mm ammo (x30) lying here.
You reload the chaingun with 10mm ammo. There is 10mm ammo (x30) lying here.
You swap your weapon. There is 10mm ammo (x30) lying here.
You reload the double shotgun with shotgun shell. You hear the scream of a
freed soul! There is 10mm ammo (x30) lying here.
You swap your weapon.
The imp fires! Boom!
Fire -- Choose target... Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! The missile hits the imp.
The hell knight fires! You are hit!
Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the imp. Boom! Boom! Boom! The
missile hits the hell knight.
The hell knight fires! The missile hits the imp. The imp dies. Your blue
armor is damaged! You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

Before him 9 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
9 of those were killed.

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I'm not sure I understand how I'm supposed to survive hell knights. Fully loaded chaingun and double shotgun, all of the health packs used, all of the health pickups used, all of the health traits used and yet no success.

Ok, maybe going Hard on the first day of play isn't ultra smart, but this was the best run of the day (other than a boring easy lvl 10, died to --guess what-- a Hell Knight.)

BDR:
Well, for starters you should avoid walls when fighting Hell Knights; their acid balls explode and so if you're near a wall they will still be able to damage you greatly even if they technically miss you.

Secondly, you should *always* carry at least one extra suit of armor, simply because if you don't you'll have no way of replacing those that get broken (and from the screen yours did get broken, though it's not clear if that was the shot before the one that killed you or directly on the killing shot such that it did subtract 2 points instead of only 1 point of damage).

Thirdly, you didn't actually take three levels of Ironman; your second level is Tough as Nails. ;)

Fourthly, Ironman is by no means the best trait to take; it's a good choice, certainly, but there's others out there. TaN, for example (which stacks on armor, btw). Son of a Bitch is also very good, especially for someone who is primarily using a chaingun (since it effectively acts as armor-piercing for each round). Try different traits next time!

tisiphone:

--- Quote from: TheBP ---DoomRL (v.0.9.8.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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--- Quote from: BDR ---Son of a Bitch is also very good, especially for someone who is primarily using a chaingun (since it effectively acts as armor-piercing for each round).
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Not if it doesn�t work ;).

About the Hell Knights, have you tried fighting them in melee?

TheBP:

--- Quote from: BDR on November 11, 2007, 03:08 ---Secondly, you should *always* carry at least one extra suit of armor, simply because if you don't you'll have no way of replacing those that get broken (and from the screen yours did get broken, though it's not clear if that was the shot before the one that killed you or directly on the killing shot such that it did subtract 2 points instead of only 1 point of damage).
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I did carry a backup suit, but another Hell Knight previously met on this very same level took care of it.

--- Quote from: BDR on November 11, 2007, 03:08 ---Thirdly, you didn't actually take three levels of Ironman; your second level is Tough as Nails. ;)
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...which is still about taking less damage and not about doing more. :)

--- Quote from: tisiphone on November 11, 2007, 04:58 ---About the Hell Knights, have you tried fighting them in melee?

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When Sandy spotted it it was rather far and splash damage pushed the characted further back on the wall.

EDIT: But yes, I should have retreated ASAP as I saw that darn thing.

BDR:

--- Quote from: tisiphone on November 11, 2007, 04:58 ---Not if it doesn�t work ;).

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I keep forgetting that not everyone donates and has access to the second beta. SoB hasn't been fixed for the regular releases yet. :/

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