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Destarus

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Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« on: January 27, 2008, 14:38 »

Not sure if anyone has already requested this, but would it be possible make each object in the game (enemies, floor types, walls, items, etc.) definable with three attributes: ASCII Character, foreground color, and background color? Not only would the game look more like Rogue (it used a vast number of symbols) but would also solve the problem of not being able to see what floor type is under items (items, would inheret the background color of the tile they are on)

Anyway, great game!

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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 00:24 »

I would only request using utf8 as character encoding. This would greatly increase the numer of available characers :-) and it would be nice not having to switch the encoding in my console emularto to CP1250 every time I run the game ;-)
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 01:55 »

I like the idea. I always enjoy customizing outlook of the game for my taste, and there is no reason why to restrict players with no-such otption, except if author little lazy or too busy.. :>
« Last Edit: January 28, 2008, 05:53 by Daqin »
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 03:59 »

Errr, and make DoomRL look like an ASCII friut salad? No f*** way.
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 05:43 »

Errr, and make DoomRL look like an ASCII friut salad? No f*** way.

That is up to the player..isn't it ? If he wishes so.. why to force him otherwise ?
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 15:10 »

Yeah, and old guy Leonardo should have made a porn version of Mona Lisa -- most viewers would enjoy it more, so why force them to watch the clothed version?
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 19:36 »

DoomRL is fine the way it is. I'd rather Kornel focused on what he is doing now (which presumably is not this) than screw around with a pointless feature.
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 01:49 »

Yeah, and old guy Leonardo should have made a porn version of Mona Lisa -- most viewers would enjoy it more, so why force them to watch the clothed version?

First of all you don't know if most or how many viewers would enjoy porn version. However, if Leonardo was painting Mona Lisa's all the time, making dozens, then anyone who would get such a painting could do whatever he liked with it, even little conversion with his own brushes to look Monalisa as he wished. Leonardo could prevent that by making surface of paintings not paintable (in theory). But then, there would question appear : "why would he like to do such thing ?". And another question follows: "why, what is he painting for then, if he cares about that?". And that could change what people actually think of Leonardo, after little investigation, because of conclussion they are not that sure anymore about the purpose of this painting. Having changed picture of the author they could also look at Mona Lisa in different way now.
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 01:53 »

DoomRL is fine the way it is. I'd rather Kornel focused on what he is doing now (which presumably is not this) than screw around with a pointless feature.

What you think of DoomRL is just your opinion, isn't it ? If it is fine to you then ok. Some people, however, would like to change the look.
Why you call something pointless if there are already people who care about it, say, author of the post ? Is it because it is useless to you ?
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 02:11 »

First off: Double post. Eww. We have an edit button for a reason.

Second, Kornel already stated his distaste for this suggestion. Can we drop it now?

Third: Comparing Mona Lisa porn to DoomRL in full ASCII with a background colour apart from black...Just don't.

DoomRL is fine the way it is. I'd rather Kornel focused on what he is doing now (which presumably is not this) than screw around with a pointless feature.

What you think of DoomRL is just your opinion, isn't it ? If it is fine to you then ok. Some people, however, would like to change the look.
Why you call something pointless if there are already people who care about it, say, author of the post ? Is it because it is useless to you ?

Why yes, I do find it pointless. It offers nothing for the gameplay, takes up valuable development time and once again, what the hell is the point? The tiles we have right now work PERFECTLY. There is no reason to have my marine looking like ? or having ? for walls and ? for stairs. Hell, we don't need B shaped Barons when we have the almighty ? that will blow up barrels shaped like ?.
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 04:27 »

First off: Double post. Eww. We have an edit button for a reason.
As we have reply button/quote too. I did it purposely because I like it that way, this time. Took almost as much space as if it was in one. So, what's so bad about double post that makes the fact worth to mention ?

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Second, Kornel already stated his distaste for this suggestion. Can we drop it now?

And that's exactly something I'd like to straighten up. Is it up to community also or to Kornel alone?

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Third: Comparing Mona Lisa porn to DoomRL in full ASCII with a background colour apart from black...Just don't.

Are you saying this to me, or to Kornel ?

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Why yes, I do find it pointless. It offers nothing for the gameplay, takes up valuable development time and once again, what the hell is the point? The tiles we have right now work PERFECTLY. There is no reason to have my marine looking like ? or having ? for walls and ? for stairs. Hell, we don't need B shaped Barons when we have the almighty ? that will blow up barrels shaped like ?.

Again, You find it pointless. If there are people asking for it then it is obvious it is not pointless to them, is it ? If you have no reason for tiles to look different then it is perfectly alright. However you don't think that only your way matters, do you ? And if changing tiles would be optional, to whomever like it, then it wouldn't affect you in any way, would it? And you wouldn't have to change anything, yes ? So, what is the point you discuss here except to prevent something that completely doesn't matter to you?
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 04:50 »

Third: Comparing Mona Lisa porn to DoomRL in full ASCII with a background colour apart from black...Just don't.
Yeah, maybe that was a tasteless comparison, but I wanted to point out a thing called "artistical integrity" vs. "add everything and the kitchen sink too".
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 07:56 »

Well, since we speak of artistic integrity and stuff, think of that if such thing was definable, players would be able to present their themes on forum, and maybe there would be some interesting alternatives to be found, as it is with other things (items, ideas etc).
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 12:52 »

My kingdom for a banhammer...

First off: Double posts within a minute of each other is just plain lazy. All you need to do is add a line of dashes, type edit:/Edit:/EDIT: (take your pick) and proceed from there..

The thing about the porn version was to both of you.

Lastly, does it really offer that much of an improvement? The most I can see happening is perhaps the walls changing to the double lines . Post a fake screeny of what you imagine it to be like.
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Re: Use of full ASCII table, background colors
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 20:47 »

@Daquin: if DoomRl would be OpenSource then You could take it and add a much characters as you want, as for now it's more like if you like it the way it is then play it, if not, then don't. I don't see the pont in arguing over this matter.
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