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Balance: The Unholy Cathedral is too difficult on non-AoB challenges. *spoilers*

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Thomas:
My maths (Which turned out to be slightly flawed because I forgot the AoD's huge armor) assumes that you have berserker and brute 3.

Basically, my AoLT strat goes like this:

Get TaN 2, kill everything with guns as per normal, but pick up the chainsaw on the way.
Start getting Brute traits, kill everything with accuracy modded chaingun, use chainsaw to kill demons and lost souls.
I start running out of bullets just before level 16, so that just allows me to pick up even more consumables. It isn't uncommon for me to have 10 consumables by level 16.
Then, regardless of my chances of survival, I enter the unholy cathedral.

I have TaN 2 (Which is pretty much useless right now because I'm planning to use berserk's +infinity armor bonus to survive), brute 3 and berserker.

Anyway, this strat is difficult because unless I find an accuracy mod quicksmart, I'm going to suffer due to my lack of eagle eye. And by level 6, I'd like to have my cahingun spewing solid death at people but I decided to go all melee instead. Not to mention that I'm relying on around half of my kills to come from a chainsaw, which can be difficult at the best of times.

So when I get 3 runs to the AoD, all of which had 8-10 consumables (One of the luckier ones managed to bring 8 large meds and a homing phase), all of which had a super duper mega chainsaw of death that one-shots pinkies, and they all get tails at the coinflip, I'm obligated to feel a little ripped off.

And killing the AoD without being berserk is indeed impossible because when I said "20 large meds" I was also therfore saying "Only 1 red armor", which is basically the only thing stopping him from killing you in 2 turns.

The main reason its so hard to kill the AoD without berserk is that berserk gives you armor. In fact, it gives so much armor that I think what it's really doing is reducing all damage to one. When the AoD does one damage per hit and hence around 10% damage in 2 turns, you can easily chainsaw him to death while he goes "WHY IS MY SPEAR NOT WORKING!?"

nerdatron:
The trick is simply to make sure you're berserk when you see the Angel of Death!

Lure the demons in the second room next to the door that the AoD is behind (AFAIK the AoD can't open doors), chainsaw until you're berserk, then open the door and slaughter the AoD! This strategy got me thru Ultra-Violence when all else failed - practically, the AoD becomes the final boss :)

Thomas:

--- Quote from: nerdatron on October 02, 2008, 05:53 ---The trick is simply to make sure you're berserk when you see the Angel of Death!

Lure the demons in the second room next to the door that the AoD is behind (AFAIK the AoD can't open doors), chainsaw until you're berserk, then open the door and slaughter the AoD! This strategy got me thru Ultra-Violence when all else failed - practically, the AoD becomes the final boss :)



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That would work provided you can survive a few maulings, which at this point you probably can.

Alrighty, now that we have a foolproof way of beating the AoD, UC is too easy. Make it harder dammit.

Xael:
Just to relate my experience:

My very first visit to the UC (a couple of builds ago) was a victory, despite the fact that a was playing a non-melle character then. At that time I was still lugging around my chainsaw just for fun, and i just so happened to pick up an inv. globe just before the stairs to the Cathedral. Result - killed the Angel without losing a single hp.

metroidRL:
anoter way to kill AoD

NOTE:this only work with HR3 and boots with movement and no armor (or with an unique armor)

first kill the lost soul (easy)

next have the demons kill himself with the lava

final like previous step have the AoD kill himself with the lava

it's very hard the final step because finding an unique armor with mov. (or boots mov. mod) it's really hard

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