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Can someone explain to me how angel of berserk is meant to be possible?

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Captain Trek:
Alright, this is ridiculous...

It's getting to the point where I'm really starting to think that anyone's who's beaten this challenge is some kind of freak because for my money it's fucking impossible, even on HNTR... Trying to play this challenge seriously (as opposed to just running past everything, which got me to level 10 at one stage, which allowed me to achieve lieutenant rank), I can never get further than base level four, have only gotten to character level three a grand total of once and have never once laid eyes on the chained court (except in the game where I ran past everything)... I've tried over and over again and have failed to make progress... If I didn't just close the window after is says "you die!" but before the mortem comes up, the relevant folder would be clogged with dozens of mortems detailing just how much I suck at AoB by now... Oh sure I know about (and make use of) gift dropping, running, going diagonally in a zig-zag... all that... but is seems only to prolong the inevitable by one floor at most (and that's on a good run)...

So could somebody explain me how this is supposed to work? Could someone tell me what mystical play strategy will allow me to even get to the chainsaw (my current goal for AoB is reaching the chained court, not winning the game, then my goal after that will be to reach level 15 so I can get to captain rank), let alone defeat the cyberdemon? Will the freaks who somehow completed this challenge please come forward? I'm really stumped and frankly, my alienation with this challenge is translating into alienation with the entire game... I really like DoomRL, but AoB is just pissing me off that much...

And for those who are wondering, I don't consider myself completely hopeless... I have thus far completed a standard game on ITYTD and an angel of light travel game on HNTR (one of the other requirements for captain rank, as you know), but Angel of Berserk, thus far, seems impossible, the only conclusion I can draw from the evidence presented to me being that I must doing something wrong... So what is it? Could somebody please explain to this me? Because I... just... don't... get it...

LockeCarnelia:
Weeeeell, one major hint I can give to you is that you need armor.  Badly.  I mean... REALLY badly.

And plus, yeah, you should run.  If you get a computer map before you enter the level, and you see that there's no loot worth picking up, don't bother with the level, just move on.  No point in wasting time in beating up all the monsters when there's nothing to use there anyways.

Also, Hellrunner and that trait that increases HP and TaN is nice.

Kornel Kisielewicz:
Check the Video topic for AoB runs :)
http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php?topic=1222.30

Titt:
It becomes a lot easier once you have the chainsaw. The hardest part is surviving to the Chained Court.

Thomas:

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You're never going to win AoB ever unless you kill stuff. You need at least all 4 melee traits (Brute and Berserker, obviously) and 3 survival traits (I suggest HR, Berserk gives you enough armor to not warrant TaN).

Humans: Sergeants you will need to ambush. Unless you can see one around a corner. Shotguns can't shoot around corners (Unlike 10mm weapons seem to be able to) so you can just wait there and he'll be forced by his AI to engage you in melee.
Other humans miss rediculously frequently. Use the running bonus or the strafe bonus and they shouldn't be able to hit you once while you charge them down.
Imps: They miss even more, just strafe them and you'll be fine. Because they're decent at fighting in melee, don't bother killing one unless you're reasonably sure you can one-shot him (Combat knife + Brute 2)
Demons: Don't bother killing them until you get the chainsaw. You will have to run away and close doors ('c') behind you. If you're berserk, THEN you can try to kill one with a knife.
Lost souls: Make sure you only fight one at a time. Remember that they move two squares at once, so if there's only one square between you and the lost soul, move back a bit so that they don't use their second action to attack you.

Use these strategies to kill at least 80% of the early game enemies, you want to be at least level 4 by the chained court.

More general melee tips:
Make sure you have a very high dodge chance whenever you're charging something. Moving in a way that would theoretically dodge their bullets gives you a huge "Strafe bonus" and running mode makes you pretty nimble too. I'd suggest holding back running mode until you really need it.

Don't use any medpack, small or not, until you're absolutely sure that you would die without it. In fact, this is a golden rule of regular games too. But it's more important in melee because you're relying on running mode and the only thing that gives your running mode back is healing.

Berserk gives you double damage, but also +6 TaN. As such, take off your armor whenever you berserk so it doesn't get damaged.

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