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Arch-Vials And Revenants

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LockeCarnelia:
If you have played Doom 2, you know for a fact that Arch Viles, when they ressurect, NEVER.  EVER. Charge up.  Ever.

skarczew:
They charge up when they attack (the player starts to see the flames around him - if he manage to disappear from their vision the attack will stop  - otherwise he is taking damage; the whole attack takes few seconds from what I remember).
From what I remember their resurrection was point blank, not ranged.

Visalos:

--- Quote from: skarczew on December 24, 2008, 07:45 ---
--- Quote ---is there a tactic or something im missing or are the Arch-Vials and Revenants overpowered

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Yes they are.

Tactics I found so far:
1. Invulnerability.
2. Berserk (remember to remove armor if you get it).
3. If you have few Supercharges on level, use one and engage while having over 100% HP.
4. If you can use ranged weapons, kill them outside their sight range. You need Cateye*2 and some space to run back when they start walking in your direction. And remove any equipment that slows you.
5. If you have good armor, engage R's face to face.
6. Use field of barrels: lure near them, then cause chain explosion.
7. Use BFG or other haxor weapon.


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1. duh :P
2. never thought to remove the armor. 'course i'm the type to always have an extra pair of clean shorts.
3. yup.
4. even better if you can kill them outside YOUR sight range.
5. If you have poor armor or no armor, engage R's face to face. see my recent post about shotguns :P (kudos on properly punctuating R's!)
6. yup.
7. Have a good trait build. Do lots of damage with your chosen weapon right fast, or be uber nimble, or uber tough or whatever. play to your strengths.

skarczew:

--- Quote from: Visalos on December 27, 2008, 14:20 ---1. duh :P
2. never thought to remove the armor. 'course i'm the type to always have an extra pair of clean shorts.
3. yup.
4. even better if you can kill them outside YOUR sight range.
5. If you have poor armor or no armor, engage R's face to face. see my recent post about shotguns :P (kudos on properly punctuating R's!)
6. yup.
7. Have a good trait build. Do lots of damage with your chosen weapon right fast, or be uber nimble, or uber tough or whatever. play to your strengths.

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2. Murphy Law says for me that I will have no armor if I don't remove it while in berserk.
4. Yeah, that works too. Just it cost a lot of ammo usually (not in sight = additional chance to miss).

Darkwaterotter:
Alright
that is all good to know
but what do you guys think is better to use to kill them
a double shotgun or chain gun...

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