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Juggler dual wield melee?

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Silhar:

--- Quote from: LockeCarnelia on January 08, 2009, 22:44 ---If this is not implemented, it should be.

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Agreed. This would even make melee builds useful in regular game !

rekenne:
I'm agreeing that this would be broken and shouldn't be implemented.

Deathpenalty:
I tested it out as well, and I'm still only getting one hit message, so I assume it doesn't work. In higher difficulties it wouldn't be too broken I think. Assuming you don't weapon bait, I think dual-wield melee is pretty fair. Not to mention you need to invest in a useless trait for melee in order to do it.

Anarchic Fox:

--- Quote from: rekenne on January 09, 2009, 11:14 ---I'm agreeing that this would be broken and shouldn't be implemented.

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I don't think so, because unless you're very lucky, you'll move through these combinations:

Two combat knives.  Spiffy, but there's the speed penalty to consider, and by the time you have all the prerequisite traits you have the chainsaw.
Chainsaw and knife.  There's only one chainsaw.  This is not too different from chainsaw alone, since the chainsaw does nearly twice the damage of the combat knife with Brute(3).
LS and chainsaw.  If you have the LS, you've already won.  So what if the damage is even higher?

However, as I said in a different post, I think the dual-wielding melee aspects should be removed from Juggler and have their own trait, with hefty prerequisites (like Brute(3) and Berserker(1)).

rekenne:
If there was a speed penalty, it might be balanced. As Juggler is right now, there wouldn't be one. That the trait requirements are weird for a melee build sorta balances things, maybe. Making a dual wielder trait that unlocks after the melee build traits would be broken, though, especially considering you're getting all the Brute bonuses *again* on the second weapon. In no world do I see one trait giving you the ability to do an extra 2d5+12 damage being anywhere near balanced.

Maybe if you didn't get Brute or Berserker on the second hit and there was a good speed penalty. Maybe.

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