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Can I get some pointers for shotguns?

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Generic:
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Wouldn't this situation essentially give you a couple combat shotguns and a double shotgun then? :P

Drukqs:
That's a highly unlikely (see: impossible) situation.

Gargulec:
Would not be quite sure to this impossibleness. RNG has a very twisted sense of humor (see: spawnig you into 3x3 room with two pain elementals and 6 lost souls). Anyway, sergants should drop shotguns, nothing more. Combat shotgun is easily found on floor (on my last HMP run I've found 4 of them on level 2) and double shotgun... well, it's luck based. And it's good that way, really.

Drukqs:
It's not impossible, I know that. But the odds of the RNG actually spawning a tiny room full of 10 or more shotgun guys with a megasphere are extremely slim. You may as well call it impossible. The reason I said it was impossible is because it was easier to type than "(see: 0.001% chance)".

The chaingun isn't luck-based though. Generally when someone starts a new run they decide between shotguns and rapidfire weapons (unless they're doing some quirky pistol/melee build, you get the idea). On the harder difficulties you can get a chaingun on level 2 without even doing Hell's Arena, but what does the shotgun guy get on harder difficulties? Just a combat shotgun, sometimes not even that. I know I've done quite a few shotgun-only attempts on HMP and UV that have failed miserably simply because the RNG was not generous enough to give me a combat shotgun on one of the first few (~5-ish) levels.

What I'm getting at is... the combat shotgun and double shotgun don't have to be dropped randomly by an enemy, it's just an idea. However, they should definitely be easier to obtain.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. In Doom II, you find a double shotgun before you find a chaingun. In fact, you don't get the chaingun until a few levels later.

Generic:
The megasphere was a joke. How did you not get that? There was an arrow screaming 'joke', for cripe's sake! D:


--- Quote from: Drukqs on July 26, 2009, 21:22 ---In fact, you don't get the Chaingun until a few levels later.

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No, you get the chaingun on MAP03, or are you /not/ playing on Ultra-Violence? Wait, no, there's a changun there on ITYTD also.

Also, you get the rocket launcher at MAP01, and the super shotgun on MAP02. ;)

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