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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.10) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Zynx, level 12 Mancubus General, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 55464 turns and scored 473464 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 840 out of 1377 hellspawn. (61%)
 He was an Angel of Light Travel!


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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 75/80   Experience 64672/12
  ToHit +6  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch (Level 3)
    Reloader       (Level 1)
    Eagle Eye      (Level 3)
    Cateye         (Level 2)

  EE->EE->Cat->SoB->SoB->SoB->EE->Cat->Iro->Iro->Iro->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   modified red armor [4/4] (53%) (M)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d9)x8 [24/40] (D1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (98%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified chaingun (1d6)x5 [20/65] (M1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] double shotgun (6d3)x3 [2/2]
    [b] BFG 9000 (10d8) [24/100]
    [c] shotgun shell (x12)
    [d] power cell (x10)
    [e] power cell (x50)
    [f] power cell (x50)
    [g] small med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] thermonuclear bomb

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    91 former humans
    93 former sergeants
    46 former captains
    143 imps
    67 demons
    48 lost souls
    31 cacodemons
    34 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    25 hell knights
    2 arachnotrons
    20 former commandos
    9 pain elementals
    9 arch-viles
    3 mancubi
    12 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 13 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 18 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He fled the Lair, knowing how to fear Arachnotrons!
  On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon fires!
 You are hit!
 Your weapon is empty.
 You reload the plasma rifle with power cell.
 You use a small med-pack. You feel healed.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 473 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 417 of those were killed.
 8 of those were killed by something unknown.
 6 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 24 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 18 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 16 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Slowly working myself towards Legend rank.
Actually I've already gotten the wins needed for Blade->Legend, but I don't have the wins for General->Overlord, nor Overlord->Blade.  I'm not sure how I'll win AoB for the latter.

AoLT on N! isn't as easy as I expected.  Despite having access to all powerups and all pickups, you run the risk of running out of ammo easily.  I had to run from enemies that didn't drop ammo rather than kill them despite it being within my power, just to conserve ammo.  It feels like a luxury playing on other modes and carrying around 800+ 10mm rounds, 200+ power cells, and 20 rockets, but you can't stock up like that on AoLT, so if you run into a crowd of enemies that don't drop ammo, you can easily run down what ammo you had.

At floor 24, I was wondering what I'd use against Cyberdemon.  I even went as far as to pick up a double shotgun that was lying around and 12 rounds with it, then remembered the 100 power cells in my BFG, thank goodness.  Unloading those, they supplied my plasma rifle for the win.  "Damage per inventory slot" is now a new metric.  100mm bullets?  Each one does perhaps 3.5 + 3 damage average (ignoring misses), so 650 damage per slot.  Power cells?  7.5 per shot, 375 per slot.  Of course ultimate ammo efficiency involves pistols, since per bullet they hit rather hard.  Using power cells with your BFG is horrendously inefficient against single targets.  40 cells for 45 average damage?  Those 40 cells could do 300 average damage before inaccuracy with a plasma rifle.

I took the third level of eagle eye, I think it made a difference.  Especially with ammo so precious.

No uniques.  Something spawned in an Arachnotron cave level, but it wasn't worth the risk.  Something also spawned in the vaults, but I was never planning to attempt it (never picked up a rocket launcher), it was just a closer set of stairs.
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Re: [N!|61%|AoLT|YAVP] Easily out of ammo (demo included)
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 00:36 »

I don't know if it will be any help, but i've been trying to do N! AoB in the beta. Here's my best try so far. In v0.9.8.10 it would have been a win due to the SoL +6 armor.

Really hard map having ran out of berserker. Ran away from a V and tried to find something to try and get Berserker, killed 2 Cacodemons with no RNG love.
Now i think of it i should have just gone for Mortuary even without zerking. Grab 2 Red armors, Supercharge, equip Red armor, Phase device and run for the stairs.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9 BETA 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Igor Savin, level 9 Demon Captain, killed by a cacodemon
 on level 22 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 16730 turns and scored 239628 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 379 out of 894 hellspawn. (42%)
 He was an Angel of Berserk!


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -3/60   Experience 35084/9
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +9

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Brute            (Level 3)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Blademaster      (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->HR->HR->HR->Bru->MBm->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   blue armor [0/2] (13%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Longinus Spear (8d8)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   combat knife (2d5)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] combat knife (2d5)
    [b] combat knife (2d5)
    [c] chainsaw (4d6)
    [d] shotgun shell (x29)
    [e] small med-pack
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] phase device
    [i] power mod pack
    [j] steel boots [1/1] (94%)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    63 former humans
    50 former sergeants
    12 former captains
    71 imps
    32 demons
    73 lost souls
    13 cacodemons
    8 barons of hell
    15 hell knights
    14 arachnotrons
    11 former commandos
    1 Angel of Death
    4 pain elementals
    4 arch-viles
    5 mancubi
    3 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He cowardly fled the Arena.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 16 he found the Longinus Spear!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  Entering level 20 he was almost dead...
  On level 20 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 22 he finally was killed by a cacodemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The arch-vile raises his arms!
 You open the door. The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in
 flames! The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 You close the door.
 You open the door.
 You close the door.
 You open the door.
 You stop running.
 The cacodemon fires! The missile hits the cacodemon. The cacodemon hits you.
 You miss the cacodemon. The cacodemon hits you. Your blue armor is
 damaged! The cacodemon hits you.
 You hit the cacodemon. The cacodemon dies. Next!
 You hit the cacodemon. The cacodemon dies. Next!
 You miss the cacodemon. The cacodemon fires! The missile hits the
 cacodemon. The cacodemon fires! You are hit! Your blue armor is

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 69 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 64 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 3 souls claim to have killed him...
 3 killed the bastard and survived.

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« Last Edit: August 09, 2009, 00:45 by Dervis »
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Re: [N!|61%|AoLT|YAVP] Easily out of ammo (demo included)
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 10:27 »

Does higher damage increase the chance of getting Berserk?  And does Berserker-granted Berserk have double duration in N!?  I'm guessing it doesn't, it still seems so short.

Yes, the Mortuary probably would be the one place I would use a phase device.  Anywhere is better than the center.

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