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Author Topic: [N!|58%|AoDD|YAVP] Winning without Cateye! (with demo)  (Read 2044 times)

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.10) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Zynx, level 12 Mancubus Overlord, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 49712 turns and scored 477896 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 791 out of 1362 hellspawn. (58%)
 He was an Angel of D&D!


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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 104/105   Experience 65158/12
  ToHit +6  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Son of a bitch (Level 3)
    Reloader       (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->SoB->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   modified blue armor [2/2] (71%) (D)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d9)x8 [8/40] (D1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [4/4] (78%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   plasma rifle (1d8)x8 [40/40]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified chaingun (1d7)x5 [50/50] (D1)
    [b] plasma rifle (1d8)x8 [32/40]
    [c] BFG 9000 (10d8) [0/100]
    [d] Missile Launcher (7d6) [0/4]
    [e] 10mm ammo (x80)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] rocket (x9)
    [l] rocket (x10)
    [m] power cell (x22)
    [n] small med-pack
    [o] small med-pack
    [p] small med-pack
    [q] small med-pack
    [r] small med-pack
    [s] phase device

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    83 former humans
    74 former sergeants
    51 former captains
    126 imps
    52 demons
    73 lost souls
    53 cacodemons
    29 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    32 hell knights
    4 arachnotrons
    8 former commandos
    11 pain elementals
    9 arch-viles
    4 mancubi
    12 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He cowardly fled the Arena.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 11 he found the Missile Launcher!
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he he found the City of Skulls.
  He fled the City in terror!
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 17 he found the Malek's Armor!
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon fires! You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 You use a small med-pack. You feel healed.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. Congratulations! You defeated

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 712 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 613 of those were killed.
 12 of those were killed by something unknown.
 32 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 31 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 24 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 22 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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It might seem at first that AoDD is just a slightly different rapid weapon run, but when you get down to it, it plays out with some significant differences.

First, when you start out, your to-hit bonus is actually pretty inadequate until perhaps level 4 or even 6, so after a few chaingun runs that terminated early, I tried using shotguns.  However, those runs didn't get past midgame, I can't seem to manage shotguns mid/late game on N! as the single target damage per second is rather low compared to rapid weapons and even pistols (although I can theoretically see how it can work with Berserker.)  So quickly I figured out the trick - play it out with a combat shotgun early on, then switch to chainguns and the like once you have enough to-hit bonus.

However, you can never afford Cateye on AoDD (if you went EE->EE->CE, you'd have no hitting power) so playing without it was an adventure.  Since you can't see farther than enemies, it's very difficult to ensure you don't walk into a pack of them, which really hurts.  With chainguns, often you don't have too much ammo to spare to fire off into space, so you can't afford to test enemy locations that way.

Having that extra health probably made a difference though, and it allowed the same medpacks to go a lot further.

Malek's armor (or any armor with 100% durability) is still pretty fragile.  Simply spawning in a room with 2 Cacos and 1 Archvile (with sight of those Caco corpses) and 1 Mancubus in the next room was enough to destroy it.

Cyberdemon got the first shot off on me, which is rare, but in this case the lack of Cateye made the difference, since it happened that it spawns in a place where there was no cover between us.  The extra health went a long way in the fight though.  I could shoot three times from the open before needing to take time to heal, which is something that doesn't occur normally.

Only N! AoPc and AoB left (the AoD win wasn't notable)!  I hope I beat them soon!
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ntc

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Re: [N!|58%|AoDD|YAVP] Winning without Cateye! (with demo)
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 19:14 »

Wow... good job and keep up the good work! I can only dream of beating Nightmare...
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