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[N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 15, 2009, 15:40 »

Cybernetic Armor + Onyx pack is absolutely ridiculous. Other than that I spent a VERY LONG time in the Mortuary until I got it cleared (respawns on top of respawns). Well i actually needed it for the kill count so I think it went rather well.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Dervis, level 18 Arch-Vile Legend, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 104088 turns and scored 970980 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 27 minutes and 25 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 2242 out of 2417 hellspawn. (92%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Elite Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 70/80   Experience 164472/18
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 1)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->Fin->Fin->TH->WK->MAc->TH->SoB->WK->Iro->Iro->Iro->HR->HR->DM->Jug->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   modified Cybernetic Armor [10] (AOP)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A2T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified plasteel boots [4/4] (178%) (ABT)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   advanced rocket launcher (6d7) [1/1] (A3B1P1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] Missile Launcher (7d6) [4/4]
    [b] Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)
    [c] rocket (x5)
    [d] small med-pack
    [e] small med-pack
    [f] small med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] phase device
    [m] envirosuit pack
    [n] thermonuclear bomb

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    192 former humans
    195 former sergeants
    127 former captains
    369 imps
    247 demons
    151 lost souls
    141 cacodemons
    159 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    116 hell knights
    143 arachnotrons
    108 former commandos
    14 pain elementals
    47 arch-viles
    142 mancubi
    90 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 7 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 10 he found the Onyx Armor Pack!
  On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 13 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
  On level 14 he found the Phaseshift Boots!
  On level 16 he found the Trigun!
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 17 he found the Malek's Armor!
  On level 19 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 21 he found the Phaseshift Armor!
  He managed to clear the Vaults completely!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 23 he found the Missile Launcher!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 Cyberdemon fires! You are hit!
 Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
 missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. Congratulations!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 358 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 307 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 11 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 8 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 30 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 26 killed the bastard and survived.
 2 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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« Last Edit: October 16, 2009, 08:55 by Dervis »
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2009, 16:13 »

What.

The.

Fuck.


How do you do it?

You are a fucking legend and you will go down in DooMRL History forever.

What I wanna know is how did you get to clevel 18, as rescumming no longer works...O_o

And how do you clear the mort on N! anyway?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 16:44 »

LOL, never thought of THAT combination :D
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 16:58 »

Jesus Christ Dervis!

Do you even sleep?

358 dudes, 30 of which killed Cybie...

Do you just blink, and the game takes its course?
How the hell do you do it?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 22:52 »

10 permanent armor?  What are the chances of all the components spawning in the same game?

And 0.9.9, not a RC or beta?  I can't seem to find the download!
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 23:16 »

10 permanent armor?  What are the chances of all the components spawning in the same game?

And 0.9.9, not a RC or beta?  I can't seem to find the download!

It requires 2 specific uniques of 34 (and a power mod, and whizkid), and this doesn't show the huge movespeed penalty for wearing cybernetic.

Also RC 5 is what will basically be re-titled 0.9.9, unless something that needs fixing is found pretty soon. So Kornel has already made all the in-game version numbers 0.9.9.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 23:27 »

How are respawning enemies handled?

Does a revived enemy count as another enemy for both killing and being left alive?  Or does only the initial creation of the enemy count, and whether or not it is killed depends on whether or not it's alive when you leave a level?



I'm also surprised at clevel 18 on non-Ao100, especially if xp required for levels is unchanged.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 02:00 »

I still want to know how you got clevel 18?

And, yes. That's why N! Elite is so hard, if enemies respawn they count against your percent...
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 03:32 »

Do you even sleep?
I played way too much DoomRL during the holidays :P.

What I wanna know is how did you get to clevel 18, as rescumming no longer works...O_o

And how do you clear the mort on N! anyway?
I'm not sure about this, but i think the required xp for high levels got lowered since 0.9.8.10. Anyway do notice I visited and cleared everything except AoD and Lava Pits (no envirosuits).

Clearing Mortuary is the same as clearing the Arena. The respawns are extremely random, sometimes you have to kill the same monster 3 times on a row, sometimes 6+ monsters get rezzed together, sometimes hardly anything gets rezzed.
How are respawning enemies handled?

Does a revived enemy count as another enemy for both killing and being left alive?
This. Even if you don't care about chasing the respawns, you'll get 75%+ just by 'clearing' the level.

On a side note, Ammochain is clearly the best trait for UV+... there's barely anything a Plasma Rifle A2 can't handle.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 05:29 »

* Aki High Fives Dervis and shoves that in Thomas's face
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 07:31 »

* Kornel Kisielewicz notices Arch-Vile Legend...

So... don't tell me you don't have anything to rank up more... O.o
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 08:30 »

* Kornel Kisielewicz notices Arch-Vile Legend...

So... don't tell me you don't have anything to rank up more... O.o

I think he has already achieved the max ranks of both Kornel.

He literaly owns your game like his bitch.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 08:54 »

Actually I'm at 9/19 Diamond, but each new badge now takes a lot of planning/luck to achieve.
Blade = 10 Diamond Badges
God hand = 15 Diamond Badges (Yeah right... :P)
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 09:11 »

Which ones do you have left?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 09:22 »

Check attachment. I don't consider Longinus Diamond since it was acquired when it could still be nuked.

Edit: Just noticed I got Quartermaster Diamond when it was bugged also. This challenge is quite doable though. So make that 8/19.

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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 09:52 »

Do you think you can achieve the remaining diamonds?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 13:01 »

Dervis, you know the reqs for even more ranks?

Yay!
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 14:06 »

Dervis, you know the reqs for even more ranks?

Yay!
I think it's this, but Kornel should give you the numbers if anything's missing.

Brigadier General - Requires 4 platinum, 1 diamond.

Lieutenant General - Requires 8 platinum, 3 diamond.

General - Requires 10 platinum, 4 diamond.

Marshal - Requires 12 platinum, 5 diamond.

Legend - Requires 7 diamond

Blade - Requires 10 diamond

God hand - Requires 15 diamond

Do you think you can achieve the remaining diamonds?
There are 3 or 4 I got my eye on, however there are others I think are virtually impossible.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 14:34 »

God hand - Requires 15 diamond
There are 3 or 4 I got my eye on, however there are others I think are virtually impossible.
Which ones are impossible?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2009, 16:55 »

Marksmanship without SoG seems pretty farfetched.  Pistols are already underpowered with a full set of traits, and pistols benefit far more from traits than other weapons (i.e. pistols are really really bad, it's only Son of a Gun/Dual Gunner that grants massive bonuses allow it to be viable).

Nightmare with only fists seems kind of tough too.

Edit:  I'm surprised that AoPc without HR is doable.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2009, 17:13 »

I'll keep God Hand a secret, wouldn't want to spoil that?

I was thinking about that the other day - If you could do N! with fists, you could do AoMr without SoG (Just pick melee traits and off you goooooo, you even get 2 mods at startup for your trusty armours)
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2009, 19:06 »

I'll keep God Hand a secret, wouldn't want to spoil that?

I was thinking about that the other day - If you could do N! with fists, you could do AoMr without SoG (Just pick melee traits and off you goooooo, you even get 2 mods at startup for your trusty armours)

Logical fallacy bolded - Asserting an Impossibility
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2009, 19:24 »

Logical fallacy bolded - Asserting an Impossibility
If there is a reward for doing N! with fists without brute, I will prove it by the power of TSearch.

First, though, I've gotta unlock N!
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2009, 19:54 »

Thomas: We're talking about Dervis here.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2009, 03:46 »

Which ones are impossible?
UAC Diamond - My best time on N! ever was just under 18m, with a Butcher's Cleaver on lvl2. To be able to shave 3 min off that would require epic RNG intervention.
Strongman / Demonic - I still haven't suceeded on a fist run even on HMP, haven't really tried hard either, but can't really see this happening.
Marksman - I don't know how doable this would be with an early unique. Still wouldn't be easy.
Centurial Diamond - Same as UAC, might be possible with an early Cleaver. Still 60 min for 100 levels averages at 36s/lvl. (No Chained Courts and you can't just enter a special level and leave)
Longinus Diamond - Considering the AoD's Hp on Nightmare! you'd need epic RNG intervention. Even 2 Zerk packs near the entrance might be insufficient.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2009, 04:39 »

Dervis, any chance we could get an N! special level/General guide?
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2009, 05:24 »

I think Thomas' tips for Nightmare! are already quite to the point. I would consider making a badges guide.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2009, 05:27 »

Yes, but when you have such things as Hell's Arena where you can't just close doors and move on...
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2009, 06:33 »

The only topics Thomas doesn't cover are the finer aspects of killing monsters on doorways/water/acid and corpse piling to avoid respawns.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2009, 07:34 »

Yes, that I would like to know.

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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2009, 16:53 »

A Badges guide would be awesome :D
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2009, 16:57 »

To unlock Demonic Diamond:

You don't.
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Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2009, 14:54 »

You can, but it would require some goddamn magic.
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