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Anticheese:
Quoting: Aertonhunams

Played Star Control II or The Ur-Quan Masters, eh?

You make some very interesting points there, But:

Quoting: Aerton
Why telepatic? Marines have helmets with antene, so it's quite likely to be connected to something.

Do you really think that the Demons would just leave the megamap on out of charity? :-)

Quoting: AertonAnother question is why maps wasn't preloaded when marine was sent on a mission. After all, UAC did built (or at least had control of) the structure so it surely had plans to equip their own troopers with.

Come on, This is the corporation that exists solely to get new weapons out the door as soon as can be, I doubt that on the Deimos/Phobos facilities there would be ANY chance of military action outside of an internal revolt, So why not cut budget and not give the marines decent equipment?

Quoting: AertonPerhaps, the urgency of the situation forced to send the squad underequipped (you don't even have a proper weapon to start)

The Marines that went in before you were equipped with some top of the line stuff according to almost every single piece of Doom backstory I can get my hands on, You were left with a pistol because they took the plasma rifle.

The only thing they were not prepared for was the Demons, But I think we can assume it went like this:

Squad leader: Ok men, Lets go!

Generic affirmative noises

(20 minutes pass)

Marine: Eww, What the hell is that!?

Second Marine: It..looks..like..a..person

Corpse is nudged with a boot

Squad leader: He's dead now.

*Uuugghhh*

Marine: What was that!?!?

Marines turn 180 degrees

All present except for the FH: AAHH!

*Gunfire*

Second Marine: It..It's..It..Was..Alive!

Third Marine: Thats impossible, It must have been a robot

Second Marine: Yeah, But in the words of the six million dollar man: "Machines dont bleed"

Third Marine: You watch that show?

The writer just sends in a horde of bloodthirsty Demons to cut the story short.

Demon: Mmm..Tastes like chicken.

Sorry for the long winded piece of crud.

Quoting: AertonAll former hunams, on the other hand, got rid of the helmets by the time you meet them, so you can't salvage plans from them.

Your standard Former Humans would have just been scientists who after the great change would have scavanged pistols, Curiously enough there is allways enough for everyone except you.

But yeah, if the Marines all had helmets then I guess that the only ways I can explain it is:

A. The Demon Overlord's like to give their warriors a "Personal Touch"

B. Their heads swelled and cracked when they mutated

C. The helmets ran out of juice and the FH's figured they dont need armour anyways. (Y'know, Undead being immune to critical hits and all)

D. They never had them to begin with and only you were wise enough to pack one.

E. The computer maps you find ARE helmets with plans.

Aerton:
Quoting: AnticheeseQuoting: Aerton
Why telepatic? Marines have helmets with antene, so it's quite likely to be connected to something.

Do you really think that the Demons would just leave the megamap on out of charity? :-)
I don't really think they got control over IT systems.

Quoting: AnticheeseCome on, This is the corporation that exists solely to get new weapons out the door as soon as can be, I doubt that on the Deimos/Phobos facilities there would be ANY chance of military action outside of an internal revolt, So why not cut budget and not give the marines decent equipment?
Such corporation would should have defence as one of it's top priorities as it is a prime target for foreign military forces, intelligence and organized crime. If there is not military action there it's solely because these facilities are heavy guarded.

Quoting: AnticheeseThe Marines that went in before you were equipped with some top of the line stuff according to almost every single piece of Doom backstory I can get my hands on, You were left with a pistol because they took the plasma rifle.
Normally, everyone should have his complect of equipment, so that's why I  told that squad went underequipped, as at least one complect of weaponry was missing. While other marines had weapon, they could lack some other items, like medpaks, gogles or radiation suits. You don't even have a communication device to contact the HQ.

Quoting: AnticheeseYour standard Former Humans would have just been scientists who after the great change would have scavanged pistols, Curiously enough there is allways enough for everyone except you.

But yeah, if the Marines all had helmets ...
Many of them are called sergeants and captains, so they seem to be some kind of a military force in previous live.
Now I recall there are quite a few corpses of marines on the first levels of the original. They have their helmets on, but they are covered in blood, so they are probably damaged and you simply can't use a helmet with a hole in an airless environment.

Quoting: AnticheeseE. The computer maps you find ARE helmets with plans.
They look like green-screened computers. Helmets are armour shards.


Zot.Fot.Pik.

Anticheese:
Quoting: Aerton
Many of them are called sergeants and captains, so they seem to be some kind of a military force in previous live.
Now I recall there are quite a few corpses of marines on the first levels of the original. They have their helmets on, but they are covered in blood, so they are probably damaged and you simply can't use a helmet with a hole in an airless environment.


You know how you have hell knights? Same thing here - Hellish Millita.

Quoting: AertonThey look like green-screened computers. Helmets are armour shards.

Technically helmets are "Spiritual Armour"


Quoting: Aerton
Such corporation would should have defence as one of it's top priorities as it is a prime target for foreign military forces, intelligence and organized crime. If there is not military action there it's solely because these facilities are heavy guarded.


If it were in real life then perhaps it would be so, Unfortunatly the Doom storyline takes place with a despotic UAC instead of a sensible one.

Quoting: AertonI don't really think they got control over IT systems.

Well they kind of did, In Doom III their mere presence corrupted computer systems.

I know that Doom III is not as Doomish as the other games, But it makes sense right? How many Demons know programming?

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