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[Gulthorpe]

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Joseph Hewitt, level 6 Mancubus Sergeant Major, killed by a revenant
 on level 12 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 9795 turns and scored 106536 points.
 He played for 11 minutes and 28 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 188 out of 478 hellspawn. (39%)


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  None

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 13132/6
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +6  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +9

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 3)
    Berserker        (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->HR->Bru->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   modified blue armor [4/4] (51%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nothing
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [1/1] (88%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [c] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [d] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [e] blue armor [2/2] (74%)
    [f] modified red armor [2/4] (38%) (B)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    15 former humans
    9 former sergeants
    4 former captains
    64 imps
    8 demons
    57 lost souls
    3 cacodemons
    7 barons of hell
    2 hell knights
    15 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    2 pain elementals
    1 mancubus

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 12 he finally was killed by a revenant.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You stop running.
 You hit the baron of hell. The baron of hell hits you.
 You hit the baron of hell. The baron of hell hits you.
 You hit the baron of hell. The baron of hell hits you.
 You hit the baron of hell. The baron of hell hits you.
 You hit the baron of hell. You feel like a killing machine! You're going
 berserk! The baron of hell hits you. You need to taste blood!
 You hit the baron of hell. The baron of hell dies. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 70 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 56 of those were killed.
 And 8 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 5 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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It seems that this might be possible although it would require extreme luck. Tried 10 or so test runs. The first levels are even harder than AoB as any enemy except a former human can be deadly and you start with only 2 small med packs compared to 2 large ones in AoB. After you gain a few levels it becomes manageable as long as you don't fight anything bigger than demons if you're not zerking.

Can anyone (Dervis maybe) give any advice how this could be won?

Question to Kornel: Does throwing a knife to a barrel count as using it? Does picking up, for example, chainsaw count as using it if you take it off of your hand immediately or after some time? Does hitting enemys with, for example, pistol in hand count as using it?

[Dervis]

I have no tips for you, as this is one of the badges i think are virtually impossible.
Concerning your knife/chainsaw issues, I think you're ok as long as you don't kill anything while using them.

[Gulthorpe]

Ok Dervis.

After maybe 30 more tries I'm not gonna try this for a while. The only time I got to Chained Court was with the shown post mortem.

There are quite a few problems in fighting with only fists. The biggest problem is that berserk doesn't activate if you're not already berserking. So if you ever run out of berserking you have to run and hope to find another berserk pack. In AoB you could just fight the next enemy and get berserk again.

I also tried without taking berserker but it didn't matter. You still have to get all the levels of brute if you want to hurt anything so it's only one trait more.

This can't either be done like AoPc because you don't level up every two levels. Maybe combined AoPc+berserking tactic, in which you fight only when berserking, could work if the damage done without brute wasn't so low.

If chance of berserking wasn't as much damage based as it is now, this could be possible in theory. While berserking, fighting with fists isn't alot harder than fighting with a chainsaw.

[Aki]

I agree that berserker should be tweaked to make this possible - A baseline percent (5%? 10%?) Plus a log function for damage (So that an increase in damage helps, but the effect is not as defining). This would be a FUUUUUUUUN badge to get if this was implemented :>

[raekuul]

It is possible, you just need to hope that the RNG is exceptionally kind to you.

Probably the best advice I can give is to try these conditions out in UV until you can beat Cybie, then take the strategy into N!.

[Thomas]

It is possible, you just need to hope that the RNG is exceptionally kind to you.

Probably the best advice I can give is to try these conditions out in UV until you can beat Cybie, then take the strategy into N!.

...wouldn't beating UV Tyson be harder than N! Tyson? You get half berserk time.

[Aki]

Exactly what Thomas said.

Bastard beat me too it D:

[Madtrixr]

...wouldn't beating UV Tyson be harder than N! Tyson? You get half berserk time.

Thomas, I would like to thank you for the awesome reference.

[Aki]

Actually, Thomas is wrong. Tyson means that one can use the Fist, Fist while Berserk, the Chainsaw and the Pistol.

* Aki loves Doom wiki :P

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

Madtrixr, if you didn't catch it, there's a similar reference also in DoomRL itself ;)

[Madtrixr]

Madtrixr, if you didn't catch it, there's a similar reference also in DoomRL itself ;)

Really? Could you give me a hint?

[Thomas]

Actually, Thomas is wrong. Tyson means that one can use the Fist, Fist while Berserk, the Chainsaw and the Pistol.

* Aki loves Doom wiki :P

I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to use the pistol, as little as it would help once you get berserk/chainsaw anyway.

[Aki]

Check the doom wiki :P

[Fanta Hege]

I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to use the pistol, as little as it would help once you get berserk/chainsaw anyway.

You're allowed to use the pistol to trigger those switches that need to be triggered by shooting if I recall correctly.