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[Styro]

For the "Using Knives and Fists" challenge, does Butcher's Cleaver count as a Knife?

[Aki]

No.

Of course not! :D

[So_1337]

Related question: If the medal requires that you win the game using knives and fists, does starting with a pistol equipped (on a non-challenge vanilla game) disqualify you? Or does an attack have to actually be made with the weapon for it to count against you?

For instance, I storm the Chained Court with my knife equipped and pick up the Chainsaw for the berserk. Have I now ruined my chance at that medal? Or am I okay so long as I don't attack with it?

Thanks for any answers you can give!

[Ruldra]

The requirements state that you only USE knives and fists. So if you carry a chainsaw but not use it, you're fine.

[So_1337]

That even includes equipping? Great, thanks =)

[mikee]

Evidently, using angel arm will disqualify you from this badge.

[So_1337]

I was packing a nuke since I didn't expect to be able to take the Cybie, but I found a berserk pack and homing phase device on the level before the arena. He didn't stand a chance =) So yes, knives only for the badge.

[mikee]

Small update to this... combat translocator will not disqualify you from this badge.  Neat, huh?

[sorear]

All that matters is that you not kill monsters while wielding anything other than a knife or fists.  Butcher's Cleaver is not a knife; nuking a level is OK as long as you switch back to knife or fists before the nuke goes off (not sure if that's always possible).

[mikee]

That seems like a less than ideal way of tracking the challenge requirements.  At the very least, I guess you could pack a couple BFGs for cybs then run up and punch him.