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The DoomRLguy

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[E/95%/YASD] overpowered arachno
« on: December 04, 2009, 03:45 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Xaero, level 5 Demon Corporal, killed by a arachnotron
 on level 9 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 50847 turns and scored 9157 points.
 He played for 30 minutes and 42 seconds.
 He was too young to die!

 He killed 134 out of 141 hellspawn. (95%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 7860/5
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->TH->Fin->Fin->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
     [ Weapon     ]   modified double shotgun (8d3)x3 [2/2] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (92%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1] (A1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified chaingun (1d6)x4 [30/40] (A1)
     red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x11)
    [d] shotgun shell (x44)
    [e] rocket (x4)
    [f] rocket (x10)
    [g] power cell (x50)
    [h] power cell (x50)
     power cell (x50)
    [j] power cell (x30)
    [k] small med-pack
    [l] small med-pack
    [m] small med-pack
    [n] small med-pack
    [o] small med-pack
    [p] small med-pack
    [q] small med-pack
    [r] large med-pack
     large med-pack
    [t] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    43 former humans
    17 former sergeants
    6 former captains
    24 imps
    15 demons
    21 lost souls
    7 cacodemons
    1 hell knight

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he finally was killed by a arachnotron.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed.
 You prepare the double shotgun!
 The imp fires! Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The imp dies.
 Close Door -- Choose direction... You close the door.
 Your weapon is empty.
 You reload the double shotgun with shotgun shell. The arachnotron hits you.
 The arachnotron hits you.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 You reload the double shotgun with shotgun shell. The arachnotron fires!
 You are hit! You are hit! Your red armor is completely destroyed!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! The arachnotron fires! You are hit!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 173 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 158 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 And 12 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 1 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 killed the bastard and survived.

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With no armour, the most damage an arachnotron can deal is 30, if all shots hit and deal maximum damage. With red armour, I lost 37. The arachnotron dealt more damage than he can. How?

EDIT: Now i lost 53 HP to am imp!? What the?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2009, 04:15 by The DoomRLguy »
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Re: [E/95%/YASD] overpowered arachno
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 04:36 »


Hiya,
Plenty of points for you to digest here...

1. Dont believe everything you read on the internet. Sometimes its wrong. :D
2. More importantly, this particular question is an issue of percentages. You start with 50/50 health. I can see from the mortem you posted that you ended on 0/50 health. 30 damage is 60% health.
3. Armour isnt very effective against plasma attacks. Red armour will only give -2 damage per shot, which reduces the arachs attack to 6-18hp. Thats between 12% and 36% health lost per burst.
4. Arachnotrons have a speed of 130%, meaning if youre not doing something very, very quick yourself, they will sometimes get 2 turns to attack you. In red armour, these 2 bursts can do up to 72% health. With no armour, they can kill you.
5. Reloading a double-barrelled shotgun is an incredibly slow action to perform. Arachs will probably get 3-4 turns in the time it takes you to reload that thing, especially since you didnt have the reloader feat. If youre going ammochain but want fun with shotguns until you get your plasmagun, Id suggest juggler, and instant-swapping between 4 different shotguns rather than wasting time reloading them in combat.
6. Youve already posted a mortem of an easy difficulty win using an ammochain build. I assume youre going for 100% kills here, but just wanted to advise you to try some different builds. If youd played a few shotgun games before, this character would probably not have died - variation makes you a better player, because you learn how to cope with a wider array of situations.
7. Running mode is spectacular against arachnotrons. Give it a try next time youre in a pinch.

8. Finally, you should have stood here:
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From that position, you can shoot the arachnotrons to death without them shooting back. If youre waiting for them to arrive, use the wait on the spot command (,.) until they come to you.

Hope those help.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2009, 04:42 by Sylph »
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Re: [E/95%/YASD] overpowered arachno
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 06:12 »

Also I'm gona add one more thing;
When your armor gets more broken the protection value lowers.
If you would have used your 100% red armor instead of the one that got destroyed that I assume was around 40% - 30% when the A attacked, you could've had a chance to survive.
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Re: [E/95%/YASD] overpowered arachno
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 13:36 »

Actually, i didn't want 100%. I just wanted fun i think.  I love frying stuff.
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