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Not under 30 minutes? D=
« on: May 04, 2010, 10:38 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Blah, level 11 Cacodemon Sergeant Major, sacrificed himself to kill the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 11119 turns and scored 37758 points.
 He played for 12 minutes and 2 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 46 out of 518 hellspawn. (8%)
 My, was he a wimpy chump.
 He was an Angel of Pacifism!


 He saved himself once.

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Major Icarus Cross
  Compet-n Gold Cross
  Pacifism Gold Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -5952/80   Experience 1824/11
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Badass           (Level 1)

  HR->HR->DM->TaN->TaN->TaN->Bad->Iro->Iro->Iro->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nothing
    [c] [ Boots      ]   nothing
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [c] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [d] blue armor [1/2] (47%)
    [e] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] envirosuit pack
    [m] technical mod pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    10 former humans
    7 former sergeants
    2 former captains
    13 imps
    13 lost souls
    1 Cyberdemon

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  Entering level 7 he was almost dead...
  On level 9 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  He nuked level 25!
  On level 25 he finally sacrificed himself to kill the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 Warning! Explosion in 8 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 7 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 6 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 5 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 4 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 3 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 2 seconds!
 Warning! Explosion in 1 seconds!
 You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You
 hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You
 hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 101 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 86 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 9 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 4 souls claim to have killed him...
 3 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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So I get Gold, but not silver? D=
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 11:03 »

Where's the bug?  Compet-N Gold is received for finishing the game in under 20 minutes.  You don't get BOTH for completing it both under 30 minutes and 20 minutes; that'd be redundant.

That's damn fast, I might add.  A couple minutes more and you'd have gotten the Platinum, a remarkable feat indeed.
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 13:58 »

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Where's the bug?  Compet-N Gold is received for finishing the game in under 20 minutes.  You don't get BOTH for completing it both under 30 minutes and 20 minutes; that'd be redundant.

But I did finish it under 30 minutes.  Assume I'm a perfectionist, and I want every medal.  By finishing it in 12 minutes, did I or did I not finish it in under 30 minutes?  I finished it in under 20 minutes as well, yes, but under 20 minutes is under 30 minutes.  It doesn't say "Finish between 20 and 30 minutes", it just says "under 30 minutes".  Thus, I want both.

Brb getting platinum =P

EDIT: Back, with platinum.  Posted in the mortems board. =P
« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 14:12 by Blahness »
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 16:03 »

Assume I'm a perfectionist, and I want every medal.

This is self-inconsistent.  A perfectionist wants ONLY the best, and accepts nothing less.  If anything you'd be pissed that this particular run wasn't a Compet-N Platinum and should be beating yourself up for only reaching Gold.  Also, I don't see zero kills, what happened to pacifism?

In any case, this is not a bug.  We can double-check with Tavana or Kornel but I'm pretty sure they'd say the same.  Accept the Gold and move on, we're more impressed with it and are perfectly capable of understanding it also means sub-30.

Also, congrats on the subsequent AoPc Platinum.  But y'know what would be even more impressive?  Platinum on a standard win.  (You see, it's never enough for perfectionists, so we need to goad them into doing harder and harder things.)
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 21:07 »

Also, I don't see zero kills, what happened to pacifism?

pacifism != zero kills :p

It's bit funny that I've "killed" exactly that many mobs my first AoP run as well:

 Die, level 11 Imp Sergeant Major, sacrificed himself to kill the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 20189 turns and scored 37481 points.
 He played for 27 minutes and 40 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 46 out of 482 hellspawn. (9%)
 My, was he a wimpy chump.
 He was an Angel of Pacifism!

 He saved himself once.
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 00:36 »

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This is self-inconsistent.  A perfectionist wants ONLY the best, and accepts nothing less.  If anything you'd be pissed that this particular run wasn't a Compet-N Platinum and should be beating yourself up for only reaching Gold.  Also, I don't see zero kills, what happened to pacifism?

In any case, this is not a bug.  We can double-check with Tavana or Kornel but I'm pretty sure they'd say the same.  Accept the Gold and move on, we're more impressed with it and are perfectly capable of understanding it also means sub-30.

Also, congrats on the subsequent AoPc Platinum.  But y'know what would be even more impressive?  Platinum on a standard win.  (You see, it's never enough for perfectionists, so we need to goad them into doing harder and harder things.)

That'll be a while nother challenge.  I'll need quite a bit of RNG luck to do it.  Reason is, I don't level on traveling down, so I actually have to get into fights.  I'll be a lot safer, but fighting is slow.  That, and I can't just nuke Cybie and be done with it in two seconds flat unless I find a nuke.  And searching for a nuke takes time, unless I'm ridiculously lucky.  And as I miss level-ups, the run only gets harder and harder.

Oh, and why do I only go to level 10 on AoP?  I mean, there're no other upgrades that benefit you, but why not end it at 9 then?
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 01:00 »

Oh, and why do I only go to level 10 on AoP?  I mean, there're no other upgrades that benefit you, but why not end it at 9 then?
I think you forgot a level of TaN in there somewhere.  HR(x2)+TaN(x3)+Iro(x3)+Bad+DM = 10.  Alternatively, you could go MFa: no splash damage is pretty sweet.  Something like:
HR -> HR -> DM -> TaN -> TaN -> Bad -> Rel -> Rel -> SM -> MFa
Although with the way that AoPc gives levels, it seems like you can get anywhere between level 9 and 12.  It appears to have something to do with the timing of special levels.
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Re: Not under 30 minutes? D=
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 07:00 »

Pacifism "can" be really not equal to ~0% kills. See the post http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,2520.0.html.
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