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[U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« on: August 07, 2010, 18:53 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Fanta, level 16 Arch-Vile General, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 131979 turns and scored 374132 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 28 minutes and 5 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 1224 out of 1224 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Explorer Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 40/65   Experience 120245/16
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +5

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 1)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->Fin->Fin->WK->TH->MAc->Jug->WK->Iro->Bru->HR->Iro->HR->Iro->DM->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Angelic Armor [7/7] (59%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Longinus Spear (8d8)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   phaseshift boots [4/4] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   missile launcher (6d6) [2/4]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified plasma rifle (1d9)x6 [40/40] (A2P2T1)
    [b] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d8) [1/40]
    [c] Trigun (3d6) [6/6]
    [d] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [e] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [f] red armor [4/4] (82%)
    [g] modified phaseshift armor [1/2] (47%) (A)
    [h] modified gothic armor [8/8] (126%) (P)
    [i] rocket (x6)
    [j] rocket (x14)
    [k] power cell (x70)
    [l] power cell (x20)
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] phase device

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    106 former humans
    116 former sergeants
    74 former captains
    152 imps
    118 demons
    262 lost souls
    59 cacodemons
    99 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    37 hell knights
    38 arachnotrons
    21 former commandos
    1 Angel of Death
    31 pain elementals
    38 arch-viles
    11 mancubi
    55 revenants
    3 nightmare imps
    2 bruiser brothers

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 8 he found the Trigun!
  On level 10 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 12 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 16 he found the Longinus Spear!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  On level 18 he entered the Vaults.
  He managed to clear the Vaults completely!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 22 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 hit! The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 You reload the missile launcher with rocket. The Cyberdemon fires! You are
 hit! The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed.
 You reload the missile launcher with rocket.
 Fire -- Choose target...   Find a more constructive way to commit suicide.
 You swap your weapons instantly!
 You wear/wield : a Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%) You feel protected! The
 Cyberdemon hits you.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You feel relatively safe

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 1400 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1280 of those were killed.
 6 of those were killed by something unknown.
 21 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 67 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 26 souls claim to have killed him...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 22 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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So then, I decided to try hunt for the UV full win considering that would be an easy badge. Now I decided to go through my routine way, aka ammochain with visiting hell arena, chained court and so on, hell, even the UC is nowdays a routine for me even if I'm not meelee.
However this round went suprisingly well as I actually managed to get to the middle vault! I was honestly only expecting to loot the side vaults in hopes of onyx armor or something else fun. I didn't really find much of good there but oh well.

Honestly I'm slightly disapointed conquer badge isn't beeing awarded like it should be, this is like the 3rd time I've done UV conquer, this time without saves even.

I'm also very disapointed I didn't find that invulnerability at hell level 9 D:

Though I must say, angel arm is fun as all hell, though it doesnt show on mortem I kinda nuked 3 hell levels in a row with it before mortuary appeared. Mortuary is pretty easy if you have a homing phase, considering the enemies will heard to the middle and you can pick up the nuclear BFG, load up your two other BFGs and just go gun and blaze towards the middle, sometimes even throw some missiles there.

On and all, was fun, shame I didn't reach my goal of full win.
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 19:38 »

That really sucks about the medal/badge. There aren't even any leads as to what the problem could be: all possible levels generated, you got 100% kills, and there are no saves. The ONLY thing that could have caused a problem, from what is visible in your words and mortem, is that nuking somehow disallows "completion of all generated levels", just as nuking prevents completion of levels like UC, Vaults and Mortuary for their respective badges. According to you, none of the Angel Arm nukes were used in any of the special levels, which means that it only could have affected the normal floors. If this IS the case then I would strike it as a bug with an easy fix: if you get both the Medal of Prejudice and the Explorer Medal, you also get the Conqueror Medal.

The other possibility is, of course, you also need a full victory. That's not a bug but it's really lame and I would vote (if that were a choice) to remove it. For your own UV full win, by the way, you can choose any challenge you want to work on simultaneously (I did mine on AoMC, for instance). It's obvious you went for two birds with one stone here as well, just throwing it out there.

Anyway, beautiful run, man. Level 16 is the highest I've ever seen on UV. How well did the Vaults go, given that you have four Viles and Revs in the middle? I imagined that you got lucky and spawned on the opposite side of where the enemies were hugging, 'cause that is a nasty group of enemies right there. (Also, I thought there was a guaranteed unique: did you not pick it up?)

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Mortuary is pretty easy if you have a homing phase, considering the enemies will heard to the middle and you can pick up the nuclear BFG, load up your two other BFGs and just go gun and blaze towards the middle, sometimes even throw some missiles there.
It's only a 50% chance of being on the right side for the nuclear BFG, but yeah, I'd still rather use it instead of chancing a sprint on UV (it's not like a guy with MAc has ammo issues).
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 21:15 »

Full victory is not required.

Currently you cannot have BOTH Explorer or Conqueror Medals, you either get one or the other. Basically the code right now says "Explored Everything and generated monsters = killed monsers? Conqueror Medal" - which should be without glitch. I'll take a look later.
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 04:09 »

As always Fanta, you astound me with your mastery of the game.

* thelaptop bows deeply at Fanta Hege

Tavana: The "Explored everything" clause is a little unsettling.  What does that mean in this context?  Does it require that every single square in the map grid has to be issued a "visited" flag or something?  In that case, then caverns with large amounts of walls are no longer "explorable" in that sense.
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 07:41 »

Sorry, after looking at the code the difference between explorer and conqueror is between exploring special levels (entering and leaving) and completing special levels.
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 08:45 »

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How well did the Vaults go, given that you have four Viles and Revs in the middle? I imagined that you got lucky and spawned on the opposite side of where the enemies were hugging, 'cause that is a nasty group of enemies right there. (Also, I thought there was a guaranteed unique: did you not pick it up?)

Pretty swell. The left vault is easy if you do not actually go inside and pummel the viles to your sight one by one by abusing the blast damage of missile launcher. Right vault is very easy if you have a meelee or plasmagun as once you open it they start swarming out the same hole and become easy kills.
The middle is something you need to enter prepared. I spawned in the middle, but as I looted gothic armor from the left vault I was well armored. I was also holding a bfg in each hand so I just started blasting the hell out of em ignoring the loot completely.

I didnt find any uniques from the vault at that time, only plasma shotty which I just unloaded and the gothic armor, kinda disapointing.



When it comes to the explorer and conquer issue, maybe its one of the special levels themselves that doesnt seem to assign themselves to 'finished' even if you do finish em? I've noticed that some of the hell level special level don't go to blue even if you kill and loot all.
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Re: [U|100%|MAC|YAAM] Conquer is bugged as hell.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 16:23 »

Fanta - that seems to be the likeliest case. Most of the special levels have had code updates, so it could be hard to reproduce on my end. I'll do a few playtest runs in a moment.
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