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[grommile]

Trying to decide what to try next, given the following:

• There's nothing left to do on ITYTD that would feel like any kind of actual achievement (I've got Scavenger Gold and Strongman Silver, after all).
• I'm quickly getting tired of levels 1-3 on HMP (out of 25 HMP games on 0.9.9.1, only five games got further than L3; the tally of deaths includes two cases of "zoned into L2 in the middle of a lost soul room")
• Beating HNTR with Ammochain wouldn't feel like much of an achievement given that I've beaten it on AoSh.
• I don't really enjoy melee games on HNTR and above because of the dependency on giftdropping.
• My pistol technique breaks down a short way into Hell on HNTR. (Ao100 best: 19, with pistols. AoMr best: 19.)
• AoLT/AoI/AoH/AoP/AoRA/AoPc/AoMs don't appeal. (Ao100 does, partly because it doesn't have the Hellgate, but it's a bit on the long side...)
• I hate the Hellgate level and am sometimes tempted to go back to 0.9.9 so that I don't have to put up with it.

[TFoN]

Why, specifically, do you hate the Hellgate?

[grommile]

On reflection, it's not so much that I hate the Hellgate itself, as that I hate the Hellgate being level 15. I disapprove of the mid-game boss being harder than the standard endgame boss (easier than the bonus boss, though...)

[Sambojin]

Start having a crack at ultra-violence games? The things you learn from ultra-violence are practical for any other game-type (and happen to be about my level of playable-ness right now). Also, getting 3 shotguns on level 1 is a blast for some builds.

Ammo-chain away if you need to. Once you get used to UV, try some other builds. It basically makes the other skill levels seem a lot easier (other than N! of course).

[Thomas]

On reflection, it's not so much that I hate the Hellgate itself, as that I hate the Hellgate being level 15. I disapprove of the mid-game boss being harder than the standard endgame boss (easier than the bonus boss, though...)

Quite odd that you would find the hellgate so troubling. Do you bring along a rocket launcher?

It's pretty much "the wall but several times easier", which admittedly also describes the final boss.

Quick Edit: Oh, I get it, you're playing on AoMr. Yeah, that'd make it pretty tricky.