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[H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« on: November 11, 2010, 17:52 »

So, I tried Desperado build and it was quite funny until I got pwned by Arachnotron in Hell's Armory:
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Pamposzek, level 5 Cacodemon Warrant Officer, killed by a arachnotron
 on level 10 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 42037 turns and scored 32462 points.
 He played for 24 minutes and 57 seconds.
 He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.

 He killed 227 out of 232 hellspawn. (97%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Max Carnage!


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  =====..........=========================....######=========
  ==....#######..#########.=====..#########...#||||#######===
  ......#....|#..#..%}...#..===...#|.|.|.|#...#....#|.|.|#...
  ......#....}#..#.......#..==....#.|...|.#...#O...#.|.|.#...
  ......###/###..###|#####..==....####.####...###+#####+##...
  .......}}......}|..}.|}.|..%}%X.%....A..%..%......%........
  ########|####..######}##.}==....####.####...#######+####...
  ||...#...|..#..#......|#..==....#|.....|#...#O.........#...
  ...../......#..#.......#..==....#O"|"|"|#...#O[......[[#...
  ||...#...}|.#..#########.====...#########...#[[.}}}}.[[#...
  #############...........======..............############..=
  ...............=========================................===
  ===========================================================
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 10450/5
  ToHit Ranged +12  ToHit Melee +12  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 3)

  SoG->SoG->SoG->SoB->SoB->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified pistol (2d4) [5/8] (B1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   nothing
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified pistol (2d4) [6/6] (A1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] blue armor [1/2] (28%)
    [b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [c] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] 10mm ammo (x34)
    [m] small med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] phase device
    [s] phase device
    [t] envirosuit pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    56 former humans
    22 former sergeants
    18 former captains
    64 imps
    18 demons
    26 lost souls
    14 cacodemons
    7 hell knights
    1 arachnotron
    1 former commando

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 10 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he finally was killed by a arachnotron.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron. The
 arachnotron dies.
 You reload the pistol with 10mm ammo.
 Fire -- Choose target...   Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target...   Boom!
 You reload the pistol with 10mm ammo.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the arachnotron. The
 arachnotron fires! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! Your blue
 armor is completely destroyed! You are hit! You are hit! You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 322 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 286 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 3 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 26 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 5 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 3 killed the bastard and survived.

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Ah.. If only I got this power mod..
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 01:26 »

hmmm, it looks like you went for a single pistol damage build to me.
Doesn't C4Cypher's 'Desperado' build revolve around Fin->Jug->SoB->SoB->SoB?
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 10:26 »

Yea, you're right, I'm sorry. I was refering to Desperado as a non Dualgunner build. Though if you play AoMc, Dualgunner would be OP, it's 2x damage.
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 15:40 »

Don't get me wrong, single pistol damage has proven to be a very good build but it's worth that one rank for dualgunner just for the option.

C4Cypher's 'Desperado' build is about abusing juggler with shotguns in the early game and switching to pistols later. It looks good on paper but still needs to be proven and refined.

As a side note, why did you skip the chained court? Your build needs as much exp early as possible so you can kill the later monsters.
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2010, 04:56 »

Oh I guess I was in dire situation and couldn't go there... I don't remember really. About Juggler - yea, I'd try this option.. but by common thinking it would be best for rapid fire weapons with BFG / RL rather than for pistols.
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 11:37 »

The chained court starts with the equivalent of 5 berserk packs, I'm not trying to be a pain but I keep seeing people skip it.

As far as that build goes it's VERY good for shotguns early in the game. With 2 standard shotguns (equipped and prepared) and 1 combat shotgun (in backpack) it goes: fire standard, free swap, fire other standard, free swap, fire combat, then pump fire till target dies. Three shot without a reload or pump will kill most monsters. It's a transforming build, the early juggler is not for the pistols the SoaB and later SoaG is.
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Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2010, 12:06 »

Yes I can see your point. I don't know what happened, but I always go for Chained Court if possible - even on UV it's free exp, because by the time you get there (also with pistols) you do sufficient damage to kill those Barons.
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