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Game Hunter:

--- Quote from: AStranger on February 09, 2011, 01:15 ---I'm not completely convinced there is another (reasonable) way. Sure you could keep playing until you find a handful of invulnerability globes right before the Cathedral, but I think lava walking is the only way that doesn't require untold amounts of luck.
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--- Quote from: MaiZure on February 09, 2011, 01:19 ---Next version = Smarter AoD that won't walk in lava

However - The berserk bug is fixed so AoD isn't so bad
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Probably means if you want to include UC (to get Conqueror Badge, for instance) you're going to have to invest toward Berserker in addition to your other traits. On N! I don't think that's unfair, it's pretty easy to hit level 10 by or on Hellgate (meaning master trait + Ber).  Before, there was little reason NOT to do UC if you had the speed for it: now it involves a some cost-cutting on levelups.

Deathwind:
Unless melee get some godly new weapons the diamond may become imposable.

Tormuse:

--- Quote from: thelaptop on February 08, 2011, 23:49 ---Also, welcome to the forums!  =D

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Thanks!  I've been spending an embarrassing amount of time playing this game lately, so it's about time I joined.  :)


--- Quote from: AStranger on February 09, 2011, 01:15 ---I'm not completely convinced there is another (reasonable) way. Sure you could keep playing until you find a handful of invulnerability globes right before the Cathedral, but I think lava walking is the only way that doesn't require untold amounts of luck.

Well done though, I bet with a couple more runs you could probably get the Destroyer diamond.

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I think it's doable if you're fast enough.  My walking speed was high enough that I got an extra move on the AoD for every five or so.  Theoretically, with enough levels in Finesse and maybe tech mods on the chainsaw, (and a lot of patience and timing) I could take out the AoD without him even touching me.

As for Destroyer Diamond...  Every time I play without Iro and TaN, I get killed horribly.  Maybe this is just a sign that I need to adjust my strategy, but I think I'm a long way away from achieving it.  :(

Game Hunter:
@Tormuse

The possibility of out-speeding AoD is possible in the new version, but the timing of actions will likely make it so that he will still hit you on occasion. AoD speed is 150% the normal rate (1.0s per action), so we're looking at ~0.67s per attack or move. HRx2 + A-modded boots is 0.64s (IIRC) and Finx2 + T-modded chainsaw would be something like 0.58s. (FYI, Fin works with melee now.) If you wanted to pull off a no-damage fight against AoD, you'd have to calculate every action you take from the beginning of map generation and compare it to the AoD's speed, then make sure that whenever you attack, you're not crossing one of those 0.67s points when the AoD can take an action. Frankly, I don't think that's worth the effort.

The best way to go about it is to max out your speed, get a couple points of EE, stock up on large med-packs as much as humanly possible, and go with a particular weapon that I can't name right now because it's a secret. When you get low on HP, run/heal, then go at it again. Because melee speed can be raised through Fin, you'll basically be attacking each other at around 1:1 ratios, which will give you (with good armor) about three hits before you need to run. With five or six med-packs and this weapon I'm thinking of, he should go down without too much of a hitch. Points in Iro would also be useful (because you'll get more breathing room per med-pack). This analysis depends on AoD not being affected by speed increases in N! (he wasn't in 0.9.9.1 but I have yet to test in 0.9.9.2).

Of course, I should be writing about this in my FAQ and not here, but since you brought it up...

Tormuse:
Sorry, when I said "a lot of patience and timing," I guess I should have said "a *LOT* of patience and timing."  :)

New version sounds cool; I'll have to download it at some point.  (Just when I thought I was getting over my addiction to this game!)  :P

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