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Quick questions thread!
« on: February 27, 2011, 14:19 »

Didn't see one of these yet, and it seems like a good idea. So, let me start off with a little poll: AoMr chained court: yea or nay? Personally I like to go the normal route, because I rarely am equipped to tackle the arena OR the altered chained court by the time I face them in AoMr. Add to that the chance of better items and I almost invariably take the normal route. I might take the chained court route if I'm really hurting for health, or if I need an early EXP boost by killing those cacos that like to hang out there after I skipped the arena.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 14:25 »

If you haven't beaten the Arena, you have no reason not to take the Chained Court. Guaranteed exp and ammo, and it's stupidly easy.

If you have beaten the Arena, you still should unless you don't have the resources to take the Master. The Arena Master's Staff is amazing when you find a pack of Lost Souls (or spawn in one on a new level!) and it guarantees your ability to get the two Agility mods - already putting you halfway to two Speedloader Pistols.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 20:40 »

That staff does many powerful and thought to be impossible things.

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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 20:41 »

That staff does many powerful and thought to be imposable things.
Imposable?

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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 21:06 »

Where does one find schematics anyway?
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 21:53 »

Where does one find schematics anyway?

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I'm assuming you meant in-game, if you just want them now they're on the wiki.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 21:53 »

Where does one find schematics anyway?
HAr HAr HAr...

Simon-v should get the reference.  ;-)
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 22:46 »

I've got mods here but no schematics...
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 23:19 »

The question of whether or not to do them on AoMr is just a difficulty level thing. On HMP or less, then definately do both. On UV or N! it really does depend on equipment and experience.

But you do get a supercharge, a large healthpack, 2 agility mods and the staff after you've finished them, and a lot of XP as well. On HMP or less the new arena is pretty easy really. Grab the chainsaw, grab the berserk packs, change back to pistol and head left. Kill the arena master whilst totally ignoring everything else. Then kill everything else. Get either some nice tactical boots or agility modded pistols for your troubles. You can kill the arena master whilst still berserk almost every time (saving you stacks of health while peons shoot you).

It's a very nice bonus early in the game if you do both levels on AoMr.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 11:32 »

I've tried AoMr on HNTR plenty of times and in a lot of ways it feels harder than AoMr on HMP. The thing that hurts the most is the lack of experience. in that scenario, I am maybe level 6 by the time I get to level 15, and so the bruise brothers are a tad difficult to take on. I've also never managed to defeat the arena on HNTR AoMr, simply because all you have is a pistol with level 2 SoG and maybe a couple med packs. Not sure how you're meant to handle all the demons and like, what, six cacodemons with just a pistol. At least on AoSh I've got a combat shotgun, but in that case it's dead easy. I'm assuming it's (meaning AoMr arena on HNTR) just massively difficult to do, but I also imagine if you can pull it off you'll be set for the rest of the game, especially if you're also able to take out the arena master. But I don't see that happening. HMP? Sure, but not HNTR.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 14:36 »

I've also never managed to defeat the arena on HNTR AoMr, simply because all you have is a pistol with level 2 SoG and maybe a couple med packs.
Arena with the entrance on L:2 is probably not a viable exercise for HNTR AoMr runs. Arena with the entrance on L:3 is another matter. The variance in the amount of armour and medicine you have at the end of L:3 is huge, no matter what difficulty you're playing on; some games I've had sucky luck and played badly and ended up with none left of either; others I've had amazing luck and finished L:3 with ten medpacks and four armours.

And of course, the Arena's difficulty is subject to hideous variance itself, due to the large random factors that apply (position of enemies; layout of pillars).

(Not that I've actually completed the Arena on AoMr, as far as I can remember...)
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 16:09 »

Completing the arena with AoMr isn't too hard using the same general strategy as with shotguns, you just need a lot of patience and a lot of ammo to waste firing blindly around corners until you actually hit anything.

I'm was too cowardly to try take on the Arena Master last time, though.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 04:31 »

I've found that you usually hit level 3 during the arena then DG makes it a breeze as long as they don't all swarm you at once.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 11:23 »

My turn to ask a question.  Phaseshift armor or tactical armor?
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 11:44 »

Phaseshift is going to be faster (especially if you mod it) but there's a rather large knockback penalty and doesn't regenerate. If you're crunched for space, keep the tactical armor, but otherwise have the phaseshift ready for speeding through tight spots (or if you actually want the knockback).
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