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Quick questions thread!
CrashGordon94:
--- Quote from: ih8regin on March 22, 2020, 01:13 ---I wonder, does AoPc really require a megaton of reloading to ever get finished? I have spent a good deal of 4h this morning to be able to finish one AoPc (mind you, I went for UV AoPc, with best attempt ended at bruiser brothers, I couldn't past them even with running - maybe I'm doing it wrong?), in the end I went for AoPc+AoOC UV and did 50 more rerolls for a non-revenant start and stuff.
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I haven't done the challenge but Angel of Pacifism is marked as "Easy", I figure it might be more down to the combo you chose, that you have fewer floors and thus fewer "free" levels from heading down staircases, plus the game compensates the later start with giving you better weapons which you're now barred from using.
Sounds like a rough combos with the two compounding on each other painfully.
CrashGordon94:
Okay, I've got some more questions:
1) On weapon restricted/Pacifist challenges, can you still nuke with the Nuclear Plasma Rifle/Nuclear BFG/Trigun? Haven't tried it but don't want to do anything that relies on it without knowing.
2) I've tried starting Angel of Pacifism as a Scout but I can't seem to see the stairs? Angel of Red Alert says areas can't be scouted, but AoPc doesn't say that.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)3) Since they're both "Blades" could I dual-wield the Dragonslayer and Butcher's Cleaver with Malicious Blades for the Blademaster-esque effect? That sounds hilariously amazing but I don't know if it works that way.
LuckyDee:
--- Quote from: CrashGordon94 on March 31, 2020, 10:43 ---2) I've tried starting Angel of Pacifism as a Scout but I can't seem to see the stairs? Angel of Red Alert says areas can't be scouted, but AoPc doesn't say that.
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Yeah, that's not a bug. Stair sense was considered akin to cheating on this challenge, so it was disabled.
As for the other two, it's been too long and I never got into the game enough to give you the answers.
ih8regin:
1. Yes, you can. If you find them of course. I recall being able to nuke with Trigun on AoSh.
2. Weird, it indeed is not written anywhere but really scout's stair sense is disabled on AoPc. Not sure if intended or just mis-described.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)3. Yes, but Blademaster effect only procs if your final blow is dealt by Butcher's Cleaver, but since it will always be a prepared weapon, and Dragonslayer hits for 9d9x2, rarely an enemy will allow you to benefit from the effect. The problem is that you will have to wield Dragonslayer first, which at least wants you to be berserk, and MMB prevents you from taking Berserker trait. However, this kind of resists is anyway capped at 95%, so MMB isn't the way to go with trying to wield Dragonslayer.
And a question at your side:
How to deal with IMPS on AoB? Anything else and I can cornershoot em into oblivion, with AoB I can only whack them, and they too often can either hit me in return (with MVm as target I'm always slower than them!) or even shoot at me while I can't see them, say if I'm hiding my @$$ behind a door shifted to the side. And they hurt, especially at level 2 and 3 when you are not yet berserking from attacks, and they are too dam many to simply ignore and try to dodge - again it's hard to dodge them without HR. Ultra-Violence implied.
khiijol:
imps and moreso demons are definitely the biggest nuisance on early levels of AOB - if you can maneuver them in front of a sergeant and let them take care of the kill for you, this works best although a bit luck based. if you're forced to fight, go in run mode before you get into melee range, which gives you huge dodge bonuses
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