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Svankensen:
After loosing a winning char trapped in mt erebus inner circle with no way out, i got my first HMP victory (second victory in total and first complete victory). I had started plying in HMP, but after losing 3 chars to shamblers i decided to go to an easier difficulty. So in HNTR i decided to face the shamblers and found nothing in their vault (and i was carefull not to blow anything). I thought Shamblers werent wort killing ever, but after clearing Mt Erebus in HNTR and not seeing the advertised lava elemental i decided that, being easy difficulty, it wouldnt have all rewards active.
My HMP game was doing pretty good so i decided not to risk the shamblers for a potential non-reward. So, i want to know, Is there a reward in Deimos Lab for killing the shamblers? I know theres one in hells armory, but i was unable to find any in deimos lab.
Oh, and another question (if its kosher, otherwise ignore it and answer the first): Any recommendations for doing the Angel of Confidence challenge? I've been doing a burst build, the one ive crafted through my games (SoB->EE->SoB->TH->Int->CE->EE->Fin->Fin->Whiz), but so far ive reacher Cateyes at most.
LuckyDee:
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 10:47 ---after clearing Mt Erebus in HNTR and not seeing the advertised lava elemental i decided that, being easy difficulty, it wouldnt have all rewards active.
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That's odd. I can't say for certain about Mt Erebus, but on the Lava Pits - its paired level - the Lava Elemental does appear on HNTR. And you can't miss it, since it's coming after you. You sure you didn't miss a lost soul or something?
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 10:47 ---My HMP game was doing pretty good so i decided not to risk the shamblers for a potential non-reward. So, i want to know, Is there a reward in Deimos Lab for killing the shamblers? I know theres one in hells armory, but i was unable to find any in deimos lab.
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In fact, they should be twice what you get in Hell's armory (not counting any 'normal' items)... I'd say "Screenprint or it didn't happen"
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 10:47 ---Oh, and another question (if its kosher, otherwise ignore it and answer the first): Any recommendations for doing the Angel of Confidence challenge?
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The only AoCn I did was on a melee build. Melee generally have more difficult starts, but they start packing a punch (ha!) swiftly and are devastating once matured.
Spoiler: Mortem (click to show/hide)--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Stephen Ward, level 8 Hell Baron Major Marine,
defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
He survived 51612 turns and scored 60442 points.
He played for 43 minutes and 36 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 284 out of 309 hellspawn. (91%)
He held his right to remain violent.
He was an Angel of Confidence!
He saved himself once.
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 8
Levels visited : 2
Levels completed : 1
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Mastermind's Brain
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Hell Armorer Badge
Daredevil Bronze Badge
Daredevil Silver Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 120/60 Experience 27932/8
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +6 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +9
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Marine
Finesse (Level 1)
Brute (Level 3)
Berserker (Level 1)
Badass (Level 2)
Vampyre (Level 1)
Bru->Bru->Bru->Ber->Bad->MVm->Bad->Fin->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] blue armor [4/4] (97%) (P)
[b] [ Weapon ] chainsword (8d2)
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] nuclear plasma rifle (1d7)x8 [24/24] (F1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1]
[b] plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (T1)
[c] red armor [4/4] (100%) (N)
[d] onyx armor [4] (P)
[e] rocket (x9)
[f] power cell (x50)
[g] power cell (x50)
[h] power cell (x50)
[i] power cell (x50)
[j] small med-pack
[k] small med-pack
[l] small med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] large med-pack
[r] homing phase device
[s] homing phase device
[t] agility mod pack
[u] agility mod pack
[v] nano pack
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Bullet - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Melee - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Shrapnel - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Acid - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Fire - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Plasma - internal 60% torso 80% feet 60%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
21 former humans
16 former sergeants
6 former captains
47 imps
25 demons
113 lost souls
9 cacodemons
7 hell knights
8 barons of hell
6 arachnotrons
4 former commandos
9 pain elementals
6 revenants
1 mancubus
3 arch-viles
1 shambler
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 1 he entered Hell's Armory.
On level 1 he assembled a chainsword!
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 3 he assembled a tactical boots!
On level 3 he arrived at the Containment Area.
Not knowing what to do, he left.
Level 6 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 7 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal!
On level 8 he found the Tower of Babel!
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 16 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
taste blood!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You are hit! You dodge! You are hit! You are hit! You dodge! You dodge! You
need to taste blood!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
taste blood!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You're going
berserk! You need to taste blood!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
taste blood!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations!
You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
You feel relatively safe now.
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
48 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
23 of those were killed.
1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 4 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
20 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
4 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
15 killed the bitch and survived.
1 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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And yeah, I was stupid enough to skip the Unholy Cathedral, which goes a long way in giving melee builds their strength.
Svankensen:
Now that i think about it, i probably missed a monster, i thought you had to open all the levers, not kill all monsters.
Well, no screenprint, but i opened the vault in deimos lab where the 2 shamblers live and i didnt find anything inside that vault. Do the items spawn somewhere else? Maybe that's what happened. In a nutshell, tho, killing the shamblers does give you rewards besides the normal rewards for doing the lab right? I can just search the level afterwards if thats the case. Shamblers are though cookies with only bullets tho, and if i understood right, they dont get damaged by the rocket launcher.
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 13:22 ---Now that i think about it, i probably missed a monster, i thought you had to open all the levers, not kill all monsters.
Well, no screenprint, but i opened the vault in deimos lab where the 2 shamblers live and i didnt find anything inside that vault. Do the items spawn somewhere else?
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The items spawn in the vaults after everything on the level is dead. You have to get the "You feel relatively safe now" message before they appear and it will give you a message like "The lab cache opens."
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 13:22 ---In a nutshell, tho, killing the shamblers does give you rewards besides the normal rewards for doing the lab right?
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You get two more mod packs, including an extra chance for an exotic one, like a nano or onyx mod.
--- Quote from: Svankensen on June 20, 2014, 13:22 ---...and if i understood right, they dont get damaged by the rocket launcher.
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The description of the Shamblers says they "shrug off explosions" because that description is lifted verbatim from the instruction manual for Quake. (It makes me feel old that I remember that; what was that? Twenty years ago?) :) I don't think they actually have any fire resistance. (Nor do they in the original Quake, as far as I know)
thelaptop:
--- Quote from: Tormuse on June 21, 2014, 06:01 ---The description of the Shamblers says they "shrug off explosions" because that description is lifted verbatim from the instruction manual for Quake. (It makes me feel old that I remember that; what was that? Twenty years ago?) :) I don't think they actually have any fire resistance. (Nor do they in the original Quake, as far as I know)
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I could... you know... make reality match the description (if it currently isn't doing so).
I'm feeling the itch to... nerf easiness... >.>
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