Topic: Apostle? (Read 17525 times)

VANDAM · « **on:** May 18, 2011, 04:42 »

To achieve Apostle rank:
-- kill 3 Apostles
Who are those Apostles???
JC is not an Apostle, right?

MaiZure · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:00 »

Uh oh, someone is getting close to...

THE ULTIMATE ENDING to DOOMRL

dun dun duuuunnnnnn!

UnderAPaleGreySky · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:33 »

Quote from: MaiZure on May 18, 2011, 06:00

Uh oh, someone is getting close to...

THE ULTIMATE ENDING to DOOMRL

dun dun duuuunnnnnn!

Pfft. It's ridiculously luck based, meaning there probably won't be anyone getting it anytime soon. :P

VANDAM · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:35 »

4 years of playing...
Maybe someone will give me a hint about Apostles :)

Malek Deneith · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:41 »

Thing is... we don't know. One or two people that have access to the code itself might be aware of specifics but they are sworn to secrecy. Some of us have our own theories but no proof so far. I heard Ao100 might giver away hints in recent versions, but not having beaten it I can't tell for sure.

Angles of death · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2011, 08:31 »

Alright, people. We need to do some testing.

Let's try nuking the last level of Ao100 while invincible and nuking JC while invincible.

thelaptop · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2011, 09:49 »

* thelaptop saunters by, whistling

Oh wait, you guys are in serious discussion. Let me walk away quickly.

* thelaptop saunters off, whistling some more

ZZ · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2011, 11:11 »

The thing is that the most probable ultimate ending is actaully th abscense of any. It's the easiest to code, and it's the funniest to implement. Think of it - Kornel created a worthless unique, and now sit there and laughs at everybody who is speaking about the ultimate ending. When we had JC, even the fact of his existance was carefully hidded, and the were no references to him in game. When we had a secret unique dragonslayer, we had no clues about it's existance in game. Now what we have - a reference to it in game, and even in the versions history. I don't know the truth, but it sounds too much like there is actually no special ending, and everything is just a joke of the developers.

yaflhdztioxo · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2011, 11:51 »

I was going to post something to the effect of 'We're just screwing with you', but I see that's been covered.

So instead I'll say that you can get him on any challenge or non-challenge mode.

Gargulec · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2011, 14:32 »

I'll add that the path to it is paved with DoomRL secrets and Almighty God Hand's private favourites.

ParaSait · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2011, 15:22 »

Ooh hoo. I'm starting to get this whole ultimate ending thing. But yeah, it sounds ridiculously luck based. :P

Thomas · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2011, 00:40 »

Quote from: yaflhdztioxo on May 18, 2011, 11:51

I was going to post something to the effect of 'We're just screwing with you', but I see that's been covered.

So instead I'll say that you can get him on any challenge or non-challenge mode.

That's odd. Including A100?

VANDAM · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2011, 03:03 »

Quote from: ParaSait on May 18, 2011, 15:22

Ooh hoo. I'm starting to get this whole ultimate ending thing. But yeah, it sounds ridiculously luck based. :P

To have Apostles rank quest you must have those conditions:
Experience rank : Cyberdemon
Skill rank : God Hand
So, now i've got this rank but i don't know what to do.
Maybe it should be Ao100 with fists, maybe nuke 100 lvl, maybe pacifist, maybe again a Ao100 UV 100% run.
Can anyone give me the difficulty, and the challenge that should be used to find this Apostle, and of course the weapons or should i nuke the last lvl? :)

UnderAPaleGreySky · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2011, 05:30 »

Quote from: VANDAM on May 19, 2011, 03:03

To have Apostles rank quest you must have those conditions:
Experience rank : Cyberdemon
Skill rank : God Hand

No. Experience and skill ranks are independent of each other, not to mention:

MaiZure · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2011, 06:52 »

Thats a ridiculous amount of asskicking

raekuul · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2011, 07:06 »

You've done it.

thelaptop · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2011, 09:25 »

Hell. Slightly more than one full year (non-stop) of DoomRL-ing.

I feel miniscule in comparison.

ParaSait · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2011, 15:23 »

Wow... really? 374 days? Lol, I don't think my laptop has even been on for that long.

If you are 18, then you've literally been playing DoomRL for about 5.5% of your whole life since the new player.wad format. Probably even more before that. C... congratulations? o.O

Deathwind · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2011, 16:11 »

The answer has been hinted at several times but nobody has figured out how to do it yet, just think about what God Hand means.

ParaSait · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2011, 16:59 »

God Hand... Apostles... Berserk?
My bet is, it's got something to do with Dragonslayer. Maybe like, wielding DS and wearing Berserker's Armor together... :P

VANDAM · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2011, 17:15 »

reverse engineering will help me... but, maybe i'll try another Ao100 run/UV-100%
BTW:
with one of the legendary "God Hands", a pair of divine arms that were once used to save the world from a demon called Angra.
Ao100 fist run+UV100% :)??

yaflhdztioxo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2011, 17:48 »

Reversing is cheating. That puts you firmly in the 'sworn to secrecy' camp.

VANDAM · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2011, 18:07 »

I don't cheat... and now i don't know what to do... so if i don't have the access to the source code the only thing which could help me with info is RE, I don't want to spend a year hoplessly trying to fulfil the conditions(and idon't know what should be done).

yaflhdztioxo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2011, 18:33 »

I didn't say you couldn't do it, just that you'd become part of an exclusive club if you did.

A really cool exclusive club.

thelaptop · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2011, 18:40 »

Okay, so here's the thing. Think about the "Apostle" rank as a bonus rank of sort that you can reach eventually. It is really not worth the effort to try and attain it. When Kornel put it in, I voiced out that it was a little too unfair to the player due to the circumstances required to even get one of these things, let alone kill it. So, just treat it like a bonus rank that you can get. It was, and is, never meant to be attainable as a part of normal game play, kind of like the God Hand rank for badge count.

VANDAM · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2011, 19:56 »

I rememer that on a Ao100 run there was an interesting event:
was killed by something unknown.
As far as i can remember this thing was invisible, maybe it was the enemy which i was searching for?
If so... I'll try again.
Don't remember if it was nighmare run or not... I think it should be a nighmare one, because of "Enemies indicator"

UnderAPaleGreySky · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2011, 20:07 »

Quote from: ParaSait on May 19, 2011, 15:23

Wow... really? 374 days? Lol, I don't think my laptop has even been on for that long.

If you are 18, then you've literally been playing DoomRL for about 5.5% of your whole life since the new player.wad format. Probably even more before that. C... congratulations? o.O

Actually, no. A fair bit of my early play involved a bit of scumming (read: I sucked. :P), which tends to rack up the play time. I haven't really played much since .992 was released, to be honest.

Tuomari Jim · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2011, 01:22 »

Quote from: VANDAM on May 19, 2011, 19:56

was killed by something unknown.

Now this has actually happened to me too O.O

I didn't really think much of it, except maybe that the guy who gibbed me wasn't in my line of sight oslt.

ParaSait · « **Reply #28 on:** May 20, 2011, 08:54 »

Quote from: UnderAPaleGreySky on May 19, 2011, 20:07

A fair bit of my early play involved a bit of scumming

VANDAM · « **Reply #29 on:** May 20, 2011, 09:20 »

So.. with Ao100 i understood that i should wear dragonslayer and berserk armor...
Hmm...

Deathwind · « **Reply #30 on:** May 20, 2011, 19:39 »

good luck with that

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