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Firstblood

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subtitle: no Hellrunner, Pacifism Diamond fail

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.3) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Dave, level 8 Mancubus 2nd Lieutenant, incinerated by an arch-vile
 on level 17 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 8084 turns and scored 98848 points.
 He played for 56 minutes and 5 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 110 out of 800 hellspawn. (13%)
 Who gave him the ticket to hell, anyway?
 He was an Angel of Pacifism!


-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 9
  Levels visited   : 4
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  None

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###################=====###################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/80   Experience 5502/8
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Brute            (Level 1)
    Badass           (Level 1)

  TaN->TaN->Bad->Iro->Iro->Iro->TaN->Bru->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chainsaw (4d6)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] blue armor [1/2] (17%)
    [b] thermonuclear bomb

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    13 former humans
    10 former sergeants
    5 former captains
    34 imps
    10 demons
    33 lost souls
    1 arachnotron
    4 nightmare demons

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He cowardly fled the Arena.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  He left the Armory without drawing too much attention.
  On level 12 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
  On level 17 he finally was killed by a arch-vile.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Boom! Boom! Boom!
 The arachnotron fires! You dodge! The missile hits the arachnotron. The
 missile hits the arachnotron. The missile hits the arachnotron. You
 dodge! The missile hits the arachnotron. The missile hits the arachnotron.
 The arachnotron fires! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 Boom! There are stairs leading downward here.
 
 You enter Phobos Hell, level 2. Khe, he, he, this will be a mess...
 You start running!
 There is a Small Health Globe lying here.
 You feel better. The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 You start running!
 The lost soul hits you.
 The arch-vile raises his arms! You dodge! The barrel explodes! The lost
 soul dies. The barrel explodes! The lost soul dies. The arch-vile
 raises his arms! You dodge! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 24 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 17 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 4 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 2 killed the bastard and survived.

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Not sure what I can say, I found it really difficult without Hellrunner, Dodgemaster & FireAngel (not that I find AoPc easy anyway). Didn't have a phase device for level 15, so I made a straight break for the hellgate. Level 16 turned out to be a heavily guarded Arachnotron Cave, without any way to dodge, I was repeatedly near-killed and finally had to make a mad dash when it was clear I couldn't heal my way out. Made it to level 17 barely alive and steps away from the stairs, but had no way to get past the Arch-Vile (with nearby acid barrels).
Is this really considered an easy Diamond? Lack of running speed & dodge makes me feel like a sitting duck for most nightmare level enemies.

I tried Marksman Diamond earlier, but wasted vital supplies trying to clear HA. I think that it's not worth attempting (clearing HA on a Marksman Diamond run, that is), it's difficult to make safe kills and beat the rate of respawn with a single pistol and no SoG.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2011, 13:39 by Firstblood »
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Re: [N!|AoPc|13%|17|YASD] Another failed Diamond attempt
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 18:39 »

Is this really considered an easy Diamond? Lack of running speed & dodge makes me feel like a sitting duck for most nightmare level enemies.
It's only an easy diamond because it requires very little experience to pull off. That said, you could have all the experience in the world and it would still take hundreds of tries. It is definitely the most luck-based Diamond out there, which is why players that have trouble normally playing through Nightmare! have a chance as long as they get enough zerk/invuln.

I tried Marksman Diamond earlier, but wasted vital supplies trying to clear HA. I think that it's not worth attempting (clearing HA on a Marksman Diamond run, that is), it's difficult to make safe kills and beat the rate of respawn with a single pistol and no SoG.
Marksman Diamond isn't really worth attempting right now. Basically you'd be playing the luck game there, hoping to find a blaster or Trigun really early (not exactly the best of odds) and then just doing what you can. If you're looking for props, Marksman Platinum still hasn't been achieved since pre-.991 days (maybe even earlier), but no one really considers it worth the Platinum (I imagine Scavenger Diamond would be worse than on AoB in this version).
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