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[N!|Ao100|84%|YAVP] Blood! Blood for Armok! God of blood! (Centurial Diamond)
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: ParaSait on October 13, 2011, 15:12 ---Heh, the former. Don't retire now though, keep rockin'! :D
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We'll see. :) I'm debating whether to get one of the "easier" Diamonds for my fifteenth like Destroyer just to get it over with, or if I should try for something more spectacular like one of the never achieved ones, like Marksman, Inquisitor, or Everyman. I have ideas for builds for all three of those, but nothing I've pulled off yet.
--- Quote from: Game Hunter on October 13, 2011, 17:34 ---Whenever an enemy dies, the game checks to see what you're holding in order to determine what weapon was used to kill it. So long as you have "nothing" in that weapon slot, it'll count as killing with your fists. (If you have anything to refute this, I would be interested in seeing it.)
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All I have is this mortem from early on in this version:
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DoomRL (v.0.9.9.4) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Tormuse, level 10 Imp Sergeant Marine,
nuked the Cyberdemon. on level 26 of the Phobos base.
He survived 94954 turns and scored 57383 points.
He played for 1 hour, 45 minutes and 55 seconds.
He was too young to die!
He killed 487 out of 487 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 6
Levels visited : 6
Levels completed : 6
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Explorer Badge
Medal of Prejudice
Conqueror Badge
Hell Champion Medal
Heroic Bronze Badge
Skull Bronze Badge
Lava Bronze Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 180/90 Experience 48865/10
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +6 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +9
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Marine
Ironman (Level 3)
Tough as nails (Level 1)
Brute (Level 3)
Berserker (Level 1)
Badass (Level 1)
Vampyre (Level 1)
Bru->Bru->Ber->Bru->Bad->MVm->Iro->Iro->Iro->TaN->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] tactical armor [1/1] (100%)
[b] [ Weapon ] nothing
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [1/1] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] nothing
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] modified blue armor [4/4] (100%) (P)
[b] modified red armor [6/6] (100%) (P)
[c] modified red armor [6/6] (100%) (P)
[d] Cybernetic Armor [7/7] (100%)
[e] large med-pack
[f] large med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] large med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] envirosuit pack
[r] lava element
[s] Arena Master's Staff
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Bullet - internal 0% torso 15% feet 0%
Shrapnel - internal 0% torso 15% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
89 former humans
68 former sergeants
26 former captains
66 imps
44 demons
122 lost souls
16 cacodemons
10 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
15 hell knights
1 arachnotron
1 John Carmack
5 former commandos
2 pain elementals
11 arch-viles
5 mancubi
1 revenant
2 bruiser brothers
1 lava elemental
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 4 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 4 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
Level 13 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 13 he found the Acid Spitter!
On level 13 he witnessed the Wall.
He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
On level 17 he found the City of Skulls.
He wiped out the City of Skulls.
On level 19, hell just froze!
On level 21 he stumbled into complex full of former humans!
On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
On level 23 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
He nuked level 25!
He defeated the Cyberdemon and found the TRUE EVIL!
He overloaded a nuclear plasma rifle on level 26!
Then finally in hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
This is it. This is the lair of all evil! What will you meet here?
Are you sure you want to overcharge the nuclear plasma rifle? This will
overload the nuclear reactor... [Y/n] You overcharge the nuclear
plasma rifle! Warning! Explosion in 10 seconds! Warning! Explosion in
9 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 8 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 7 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 6 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 5 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 4 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 3 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 2 seconds!
Warning! Explosion in 1 seconds!
You feel relatively safe now. Congratulations! You defeated John
Carmack! Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
3 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
1 of those @was killed.
2 souls destroyed the Cyberdemon...
1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
1 killed the bastard and survived.
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I was trying to get Sunrise Iron Fist as Conqueror. When I didn't get the SIF badge, I assumed it was because I nuked JC with a Nuclear Plasma Rifle. It was the only instance in the game that I wielded a weapon. (aside from the chainsaw, which I quickly unwielded, and my starting pistol, which I also quickly unwielded before fighting anything) On further reflection, it could be that I didn't get SIF because I died with the nuke. Perhaps it doesn't count as a victory if you nuke JC the same as if you nuke the Cyberdemon?
Incidentally, is it really only if something dies while you have a weapon in your hand? Does that mean you can, for example, break down The Wall with a rocket launcher and still get SIF? ...or hit Cybie with a few BFG blasts and then finish him off with your fists and still get SIF?
MaiZure:
--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 13, 2011, 20:30 ---
Incidentally, is it really only if something dies while you have a weapon in your hand? Does that mean you can, for example, break down The Wall with a rocket launcher and still get SIF? ...or hit Cybie with a few BFG blasts and then finish him off with your fists and still get SIF?
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This was true in past versions, yes.
I haven't confirmed it for a while now.
AStranger:
--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 12, 2011, 14:23 ---Heh, yeah, I'll probably play about 80 ITYTD games just to level up my Cyberdemon kills. :)
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I recommend M AoPc speedruns. If I had to guess I would say I got about 6-10 Cyberdemons per hour that way.
--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 12, 2011, 14:23 ---Apostle God Hand? How do I get that? There's a reference to "Apostle Insignia" on the wiki, but it doesn't really say how to get it.
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Unfortunately sharing information is strictly forbidden, but I'll tell you what I can without getting banned. The short answer is, don't waste your time even thinking about it. The amount of luck you need just to get the game to generate an Apostle makes the Pacifism diamond look like a purely skill based challenge. Granted this was with 0.9.9.3, but I don't see any reason why the condition would have changed. Looking back, I can't say I'm happy to have met an Apostle, because that's when I realized I was never going to be able to pull it off two more times. If you are dead set one meeting one, all I can say is just keep playing. It might take a year or two, but if the stars align just right, you may someday get the RNG's blessing and actually have a chance at seeing one. I wish I could say I was just exaggerating.
S.K. Ren:
Tormuse, if you are feeling bored I challenge you to achieve the following (for fun of course). Make a MMB technician and make a Fireshield Duelist Armor in the same game. That goal should keep you occupied as you build up Cybie kills.
Game Hunter:
--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 13, 2011, 20:30 ---I was trying to get Sunrise Iron Fist as Conqueror. When I didn't get the SIF badge, I assumed it was because I nuked JC with a Nuclear Plasma Rifle. ... Perhaps it doesn't count as a victory if you nuke JC the same as if you nuke the Cyberdemon?
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That is exactly the case. I included medals to that page just now as to be more accurate, but we've known that this is the case for some time now. This isn't an oversight of the game, it's executed as intended. (Had you been invulnerable at the time of nuke, however, it should have counted.)
--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 13, 2011, 20:30 ---Incidentally, is it really only if something dies while you have a weapon in your hand? Does that mean you can, for example, break down The Wall with a rocket launcher and still get SIF? ...or hit Cybie with a few BFG blasts and then finish him off with your fists and still get SIF?
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Yes. Of course, this also works in reverse: if you happen to be holding a rocket launcher for wall-busting purposes and a demon kills itself in lava, that kill will be counted toward rocket launchers. I've outlined the general strategy on the Strategy:Fists page, though certainly your Demonic Diamond victory know-how can help that page out.
However you want to write things up, I can take care of the "posting on the Wiki" part if you want to just send me a text file with your thoughts on nearly any DoomRL subject.
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