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[E|70%|YAVP] Why do you tempt me to go pistol when I want to punch things?

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Tormuse:
I'm not sure what would be harder, Hell's Arena, or killing the Arena Master in the Chained Court!  :o  After that, you just have to hope you find a Trigun and have invulnerabilities for each of the generated levels.  I think nuking the Armory would take the Shambler with it, but you would definitely have to nuke the Lava Pits twice, since the Lava Elemental doesn't appear until everything else is dead.

Chronos:

--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 27, 2011, 22:49 ---I'm not sure what would be harder, Hell's Arena, or killing the Arena Master in the Chained Court!  :o  After that, you just have to hope you find a Trigun and have invulnerabilities for each of the generated levels.  I think nuking the Armory would take the Shambler with it, but you would definitely have to nuke the Lava Pits twice, since the Lava Elemental doesn't appear until everything else is dead.

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But I thought that nuking special levels (except for The Wall) does not count for level completion. Am I wrong?

Game Hunter:

--- Quote from: Chronos on October 28, 2011, 01:24 ---But I thought that nuking special levels (except for The Wall) does not count for level completion. Am I wrong?
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Getting the level to be counted as "done" (for, say, the purposes of a Conqueror run) includes nuking the level. For certain badges, when they ask the level be "completed", this always discounts nuking; for badges that ask the level be "cleared", nuking is allowed.


--- Quote from: Tormuse on October 27, 2011, 22:49 ---I'm not sure what would be harder, Hell's Arena, or killing the Arena Master in the Chained Court!  :o  After that, you just have to hope you find a Trigun and have invulnerabilities for each of the generated levels.  I think nuking the Armory would take the Shambler with it, but you would definitely have to nuke the Lava Pits twice, since the Lava Elemental doesn't appear until everything else is dead.
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To my knowledge, the shambler isn't "in" the level until you pull the lever, so you'd either need a lot of extra invulernability (to get to it) or a lucky phase.

Really though, that sounds just about impossible to do without nuking, even if you were invulnerable for an infinite amount of time. Having enemies kill each other through indirect infighting and splash damage isn't TOO bad, but the trick to get the last two enemies in such a position that they kill each other can be very difficult. With Nightmare! I suppose you're given as many tries as you need (unless something accidentally destroys the corpse) so...over the course of a few days you might pull it off. And naturally you'd have to hope that none of the regular levels screwed you in the process, which is the hard part of AoPc in the first place.

Yeah, I'd write this off as impossible.

Chronos:

--- Quote from: Game Hunter on October 28, 2011, 07:40 ---Getting the level to be counted as "done" (for, say, the purposes of a Conqueror run) includes nuking the level. For certain badges, when they ask the level be "completed", this always discounts nuking; for badges that ask the level be "cleared", nuking is allowed.
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I see. I was confused a lot... ^_^

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