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Nub question - where abouts should I be by now?
Kinitawowi:
(First post, so tell me if I've screwed up by putting this in the wrong place or asking something that's covered in a guide already, or something.)
So I first found DoomRL a while back, but I've got really into it as of 0.9.9.4. (I love Nethack to bits, and this game is a neat variation of the mechanics with a completely different play style. I like it.) Done a bit of wandering around, and made my way down to the depths a few times, but I don't quite seem to be able to make that final push to an actual win yet. (Mancubi and revenants destroy me too low down, and I haven't yet found a decent armor setup.)
The Nethacker in me has me going for 100% kills on every level, which I'm not sure is the right way forward. (It also has me trying to batter things with big swords, which is probably why my best runs so far have been AoB.)
Notes on current progress:
ITYD: 3 deaths and a max of level 17 on one "ignore everything and bolt to the Hellgate for the Gatekeeper Bronze" run.
HNTR: 219 deaths (almost all first-three-level AoBs) and a max of level 22; the AoB run of my life, but taking a look at the Mortuary on a run without the City Of Skulls was probably an error. (AoB runs have two big hates: arachnotrons and arch-viles. Yeah.) Also had an AoB level 21 run that got careless in the Spider's Lair.
HMP: 190 deaths (I started playing the game on this difficulty, which probably wasn't smart) and a max level of 18; just a plain ol' run that eventually got arch-viled to death.
UV: 25 deaths and a max level of 14; going for the Arena Silver, I eventually found (from a brief browse around the forums) that AoMC was the way to go. A couple of lucky vaults got me a gatling gun before I went in and the rest was history - until I ran out of ammo and armor and got arch-viled. Again.
N!: Not yet.
Badges: Check the sig. The platinum was Armorer.
Medals: Hell Champion, Hell Armorer, and UAC Bronze and Gold (I've read elsewhere that the Silver doesn't stack. It really should; I get the argument for why it doesn't, but... ugh.)
Challenges: Done most of the Bronze badge challenges except Hunter and Masochist. Made level 17 on Marksman and 21 on Shottyman (both HNTR).
So yeah. Any thoughts or advice on how to make the big push towards the end to finally get my first win under my belt?
Ander Hammer:
What you've done is less helpful than what you do.
You play lots of AoB. Do you gift-drop a lot and know how to move/run?
What problems are you having in particular when you reach Hell?
As things with endgame monsters stand now, it's a matter of learning how to 'take cover' on corners and knowing how to radar shoot, unless you can't use shotguns.
Traits also play a big part in success or failure. What builds are you using?
Kinitawowi:
I don't gift-drop much unless I'm particularly desperate; it's phenomenally difficult to get out of the very bad habit of just trying to run up and smack things in the face. (The number one thing I need to learn in this game - discretion. My biggest error is usually underestimating how badly something will hurt me ("well, that demon took 9% health off me last time and I've got 20% left so I should be alright for one more hit... right?"), and going for one more shot or reload rather than using medpacks.) Moving is one thing I'm trying to learn to do properly; carelessly racing across a level by holding the arrow key is getting me imped far too often. Dodging is a pain in the ass. And I've started using the occasional tactic run to run up to things, but still not that effectively yet.
Hell deaths mostly just tend to be down to bad planning, I think. Like I said, decent armor is one thing I really haven't got the hang of, and I've yet to cook up something that doesn't get me wiped out by mancubi and revenants as soon as I see them. Being outrun by archviles is also a big problem on AoB runs (and a marginally lesser problem on others, but archviles are still the main source of hell death).
AoB runs are so far all built on Marine Bru-Bad-Bru-Ber-Iro-MVm, then maybe aiming for WK after that to try and mod up something; I've never quite decided whether to swap the Bru and Bad at the start (the knockback from sergeants is hellish in the early game; I've never found throwing knives at them effective enough to bother with). As a Marine I could probably stand to ditch the Iro and replace it with something more useful (probably another Bru). I usually skip the Arena in favour of an easier run at the Chained Court, and then go knife-chainsaw-Longinus. If I've got an envirosuit on me I'll always take on the Armory; the Shambler is incredibly easy if you've got good health, Ber and a chainsaw (on HNTR, the only real difficulty there is approaching the arachnotrons).
All other runs - particularly non-challenge - tend to rely mainly on shotguns (modding up a tactial shotgun is usually my highest priority for any such game), for which I aim at MAD (usually Bad-Rel-Rel-SM-TaN or such). If I'm undecided, I'll go Bad-Iro-Tan-Iro-Tan-Iro-MSv, which is probably actually crap. (I pretty much exclusively play Marines.)
raekuul:
--- Quote from: Kinitawowi on November 19, 2011, 11:15 --- carelessly racing across a level by holding the arrow key
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THIS... so much.
Fun fact: It's entirely possible to get killed in a game where your HP is locked at 100... by doing exactly this. The game is running so fast that the locking program can't keep up when you do this, and Locking Programs are supposed to be so ultra-fast that this can't happen. In other words, use comma for that sort of thing.
Kinitawowi:
--- Quote from: raekuul on November 19, 2011, 11:22 ---THIS... so much.
Fun fact: It's entirely possible to get killed in a game where your HP is locked at 100... by doing exactly this. The game is running so fast that the locking program can't keep up when you do this, and Locking Programs are supposed to be so ultra-fast that this can't happen. In other words, use comma for that sort of thing.
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Nethack might have called this Lessons Learned The Hard Way once upon a time. :p "Yeah, I'm not commaing it across the Armory to get the stuff round the back of the lab, there's too much leftover ammo in the middle of the map and it'll take forever. I'll just hold left..." *gets eaten in the back by the last lost soul I missed*
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