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Author Topic: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh  (Read 17434 times)

Cheesybox

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I know it's not something given out and whatever but I'd really like a hint as how to wield this thing. I've had number of games drop it, and my past 2 games in row dropped it as well and (I feel like) I've tried everything.
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I don't know what else to try and every time I see it it frustrates me that I can't figure it out, even with trial and error.

I'm sorry if this sounds whiny, it's just bugging the hell out of me :/
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 16:50 by Cheesybox »
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 17:13 »

All I'm allowed to say is that, once you figure it out, you'll be kicking yourself over how simple it is.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 19:49 »

I guess that helps. Is there anything that blocks you from being able to pick it up?
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 21:34 »

All I'm allowed to say is that, once you figure it out, you'll be kicking yourself over how simple it is.
I'll keep this in mind if I ever find the Dragonslayer :/
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 07:24 »

I have some ideas on how, but goddamn it I've had it spawn once and only once, since 0.9.9.1 I think?

I could probably try some Ao100 if I had the time.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 07:30 »

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I've had number of games drop it, and my past 2 games in row dropped it as well
Now i know who stole DS generating from me.
Though maybe it's RNG punishing me because i know how to pick it up.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 08:42 »

I'd rather see the spawn rate upped, and/or the set guaranteed to generate - if one piece gets rolled, the other will show up later.

I have a very excellent (simple) theory that I've yet to ever be able to test, partly because I like guns too much and partly because I've seen the DS one time.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 09:33 »

I have a couple of ideas as well, but the only time I came across it was before I even knew it was different from the other uniques. I found it, figured I was missing a required trait or something and only bothered to check the Wiki/forum after I'd died...

Had I known there was some trick to it, I'd have done more experimenting.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 11:16 »

Strange... I seem to remember the wiki talk page for the Dragonslayer talking a bit about the mysterious requirements (nothing too revealing I thought), but the talk page is empty now...

EDIT: Ah, turns out the page was on the old wiki.

EDIT 2: Hehehe, I have a theory to try if I ever find it.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 20:12 »

I've found a common trait in old mortems that managed to wield it, but I don't know if there's more than just that. I suspect I know how to wear the Berserker Armor as well, but I've not even had the two pieces spawn in the same game..... yet.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 23:06 »

All I'm allowed to say is that, once you figure it out, you'll be kicking yourself over how simple it is.
Like trying to pick it up without any weapons in your hand? ;P
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 04:09 »

Like trying to pick it up without any weapons in your hand? ;P
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I tried that with the Berserker Armor (actually dropped everything I was carrying first), don't know if it would work any better with DS. Maybe BA needs DS to use or maybe it has it's own trick, no idea.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 09:18 »

Here's the entry on the old wiki, for reference.  I won't say what my theory is, but I came up with it from reading this plus applying the "kicking yourself over how simple it is" principle.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 09:59 »

Vampyre? :P

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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 11:39 »

Read the entire entry and look at the exact phrasing that's used for the quotes from the game.  Then think about everything that's in DoomRL.  I think you'll discover my theory.  No clue when I'll be able to test it, because I can't get very far in Ao100 and have yet to see the Dragonslayer.  Though I've apparently discovered the Berserker Armor 3 times.
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