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Ischaldirh:
So I'm having difficulty beating AoSh. Two points kill me most often: Chained Court (after Hell's Arena), and Tower of Babel. The former I can always just skip so I'm not worried about that (plus I can usually beat it as long as I don't get impatient and/or reckless, and bring a few medkits). However every time I fight the Cyberdemon I have major trouble beating him. Shotguns are terribly weak at range, and I can never get close to him without eating a rocket and getting tossed back a half-dozen tiles. I've tried hiding behind the pillars until he gets close and then cornershooting him and trying to dance around away from him, but every time after three or so shots he just demolishes the pillar and I'm back where I started. Any tips?

AlterAsc:
Dodgemaster is a great trait against Cyberdemon.You can dodge all rockets with it, while being one step away from Cybie.So MFa is easy choice.Dodge, shoot, dodge, shoot.With Shottyhead you can take DM too.
If you're going for MAD then turn on running, try to sidestep his shots and shoot.
Fireproof red armor helps too.

tinyrodent:
If you don't complete Hell's Arena then Chained Court is super easy with shotguns. Open a door, shoot until you hear a pain sound then duck out of sight and wait for enemy to come near. Repeat until all formers are dead. Then shoot a door open across from the lava and wait for enemy to appear, kill it. I often complete this without taking any damage. Then grab all 4 berserk and the chainsaw for a super long lasting buff through the next levels.

The other Chained Court map is more difficult but still within reason. Use the same approach on the right side of the room first, try to kill enemies on the door or blast them into the lava so that the arena master can't revive them. Grab the agility mod and maybe put it on your boots. Then lead enemies from the left. Grab berserk and use red armor to fight the arena master. You can't dodge his ranged attack so rush in close and blast him.

Uitë:
I find that Shottyhead helps a lot. You can dodge like mad and fire off more shots to actually hurt him.

MaiZure:

--- Quote from: Ischaldirh on February 12, 2012, 14:05 ---So I'm having difficulty beating AoSh. Two points kill me most often: Chained Court (after Hell's Arena), and Tower of Babel. The former I can always just skip so I'm not worried about that (plus I can usually beat it as long as I don't get impatient and/or reckless, and bring a few medkits). However every time I fight the Cyberdemon I have major trouble beating him. Shotguns are terribly weak at range, and I can never get close to him without eating a rocket and getting tossed back a half-dozen tiles. I've tried hiding behind the pillars until he gets close and then cornershooting him and trying to dance around away from him, but every time after three or so shots he just demolishes the pillar and I'm back where I started. Any tips?

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I've noted the same problem with AoSh and Cybie. Unfortunately, the challenge severely limits the players options in terms of build as the Dodgemaster route is about the only guaranteed way to get by him. Army of the Dead is possible but not guaranteed (success varies with difficult level). The only other choice is pray for something like the Jackhammer or nuke/invul combo. All of these options require a large number of shells which means you had better have cleaned out the sergeants in the Halls of Carnage. All in all, I'm not impressed with the AoSh/Cybie roadblock.

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