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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2006, 15:23 »

I just found a bug/limitation of the engine that makes permanently clearing a level on Nightmare! possible: water.
I pulled a water lever and flooded the entire level with water. Corpses disappear/don't appaear on water tiles so enemies killed on water never respawn :D

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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2006, 15:24 »

Well, at least the water's good for something... 8-)
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2006, 15:26 »

Wow, bows before DaEezT!! I knew it, but haven't realized, that i can use switches to such deed! Then Intuition level 2 anyway is most required perk in Nightmare! I need to try it! Only one problem - imho, later levels rarely have levers, that floods level with water, generally they floods it with lava or acid.
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2006, 15:43 »

--------------------------------------------------------------
 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5 Beta 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 DaEezT, level 7 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a lost soul
 on level 6 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 35223 turns and scored 77660 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 381 out of 475 hellspawn. (80%)


-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/80   Experience 17559/7
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 3)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Reloader       (Level 1)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   blue armor [0/2] (10%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [2/2] (79%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] 10mm ammo (x75)
    [b] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] weapon magazine mod

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    56 former humans
    47 former sergeants
    66 former captains
    58 imps
    54 demons
    13 lost souls
    8 cacodemons
    9 hell knights
    5 former commandos
    8 pain elementals

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 3 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 On level 4 he battled through the complex.
 On level 5 he battled through the complex.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 There he finally was killed by a lost soul.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Argh!!! Acid!
 Argh!!! Acid!
 Argh!!! Acid!
 Argh!!! Acid!
 You open the door. Argh!!! Acid!
 The hell knight fires! Boom! Your blue armor is damaged! The pain
 elemental spawns lost souls! Argh!!! Acid!
 Argh!!! Acid!
 Argh!!! Acid!
 The pain elemental spawns lost souls! Argh!!! Acid!
 The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. Argh!!! Acid!
 The lost soul hits you. Argh!!! Acid!
 The lost soul hits you. Argh!!! Acid!
 The lost soul hits you. Argh!!! Acid!
 The lost soul hits you. You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 174 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 161 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 6 killed the bastard and survived.

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Stupid respawning pain elementals crated a zillion souls and there was a huge room filled with acid in the middle of the level :/
On level 2 I killed two captains and then kept spawncamping them till I reached level 4 (they drop ammo) . After that I moved on. Tan(3) worked well agains commandos and captains with their auto fire but Im is defenitely more important.

Another thing came to me while playing. Maybe one should focus on chaingun/plasma on nightmare because you can 'harvest' them by spancamping humans. Of course the cells can be used for the BFG later but imo it could be a good idea to ignore rockets.

But I think it's possible to win Nightmare! if you a) spawncamp as much as possible early on to gain all the useful traits and b) take at least brute(2), berserker(1) and kill the angel for the spear. I killed the Angel with only that in my last AoD game.
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2006, 17:00 »

Last one for today.
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5 Beta 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 DaEezT, level 7 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a former commando
 on level 8 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 34349 turns and scored 84332 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 359 out of 530 hellspawn. (68%)


-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -2/60   Experience 19045/7
  ToHit +3  ToDmg Ranged +1  ToDmg Melee +1

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 1)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch (Level 1)
    Reloader       (Level 1)
    Eagle Eye      (Level 1)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] 10mm ammo (x85)
    [b] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    51 former humans
    31 former sergeants
    73 former captains
    57 imps
    51 demons
    20 lost souls
    16 cacodemons
    2 barons of hell
    15 hell knights
    2 former commandos
    2 pain elementals

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 3 he battled through the complex.
 On level 4 he battled through the complex.
 On level 5 he battled through the complex.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 On level 7 he battled through the complex.
 On level 8 he battled through the complex.
 There he finally was killed by a former commando.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 the lost soul. The lost soul dies. The arachnotron hits you.
 The former commando fires! Boom! You are hit! The missile hits the
 cacodemon. Boom! Boom! You are hit! The arachnotron fires! You are
 hit! You are hit! Boom! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
 scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear
 the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! The former
 sergeant dies. The lost soul dies. There is a shotgun (6d3) [0/1]
 lying here.
 The arachnotron fires! You are hit! The missile hits the arachnotron. You
 are hit! You are hit! You are hit! The arachnotron fires! Boom! The
 missile hits the former commando. Boom! The missile hits the former
 commando. Boom! Boom!
 The arachnotron fires! You are hit! You are hit! The missile hits the
 former commando. The missile hits the former commando. The former
 commando fires! You are hit! You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 185 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 172 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 6 killed the bastard and survived.

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I tried a combination of Soab/Ee/Reloader to make the chaingun more useful but I'm not sure how much it really helped. Tan(3) is defenitely very useful since you'll never be able to explore the entile level to look for armor. Im is not needed right from the start because meds heal double like they do on ITYTD. Apart from that it's pure luck really :p

Edit: Spelling. It'S late and I am Nightmare!ed D:
« Last Edit: December 16, 2006, 17:02 by DaEezT »
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2006, 03:45 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5 Beta 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 DaEezT, level 8 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a cacodemon
 on level 7 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 39725 turns and scored 99836 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 461 out of 591 hellspawn. (78%)


-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/70   Experience 22808/8
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 2)
    Hellrunner     (Level 2)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Brute          (Level 1)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   green armor [0/1] (46%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [2/2] (99%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] blue armor [2/2] (74%)
    [b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [c] chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [d] 10mm ammo (x60)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [m] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [n] 10mm ammo (x100)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    54 former humans
    112 former sergeants
    112 former captains
    36 imps
    86 demons
    13 lost souls
    8 cacodemons
    1 baron of hell
    18 hell knights
    1 arachnotron
    3 former commandos

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 3 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 On level 4 he battled through the complex.
 On level 5 he battled through the complex.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 On level 7 he battled through the complex.
 There he finally was killed by a cacodemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 demon. The demon dies. The missile hits the demon. The missile hits
 the demon. Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the
 demon. Boom! The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the demon.
 The demon hits you.
 Your weapon is empty.
 Your weapon is empty.
 You reload the chaingun with 10mm ammo. The demon hits you. The demon hits
 you. The demon hits you.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the
 demon. The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the demon. The
 missile hits the demon. The demon dies.
 You reload the chaingun with 10mm ammo. You are hit!
 You open the door. You are hit! Your green armor is damaged! You
 die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 189 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 176 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 6 killed the bastard and survived.

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I was doing so well....
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You open the door. You are hit! Your green armor is damaged! You
 die!...
opened a door and before the game even had a chance to draw what was behind that door I saw 3 explosions (1 from cacodemon and 2 from barrels) and was dead on the spot...
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2006, 03:56 »

That's why it is good to have Intuition: to always know, what is behind next door.
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2006, 04:01 »

One thing that a man learns from ADOM - always stand a little to the side before opening a door xP
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2006, 08:28 »

Here are a few ideas/theories from me:

1. You'll only be able to level up until you reach dlvl 10 at which point AVs are likely to show up. Killing things after that will be almost impossible because of the huge number of though monsters. Even using rocket launcher and BFG won't help. Both have a low per slot ammo count and both destroy items on the ground around the monster. In addition all the late game monsters have splash as well so collectiong ammo won't be an option and they don't drop any items either.

2. You can level up as long as your patience lasts on dlvl 2! On dlvl 2 the only monsters are humans, sergeants, captains, imps, demons and souls. All except the demons die from one chaingun attack (5 hits) and humans and captains drop ammo so you can just keep on spawncamping till you reach a high enough level.

3. The only realistic victory option is the Spear because it's overpowered :p

4. If N! works like all the other difficulties then Cybie and AoD shouldn't be any tougher so the main problem is suriving the normal levels.

5. Angel of Haste might actually be the ideal way to beat N! (or AoH the ideal way to beat N! :p). Normally you need to find 23 exits to reach cybie (level1 is easy so it doesn't count). AoH halves that but you can still spawncamp on dlvl 3 and the toughest enemies there are a few cacodemons (really only a few).


Observations:

- Enemies don't respawn if you or another monster stand on their corpse.
- Corpses are 'swallowed' by water (see my earlier post)


Hints:

Humans (all kinds) and knights/barons are easy to control because they like guarding levers/items and the later is easily 'created' by killing a few humsn a dozen times or so.


My personal target build for N! is:
Ironman (3)
Tough as nails(3)
Hellrunner(3)
Brute(2)
Berserker(1)
Total level: 12
The idea is to kill the AoD and then just finish off Cybie with 2 hits.

I'll also give AoH on N! a try now.
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2006, 09:08 »

5. Angel of Haste might actually be the ideal way to beat N! (or AoH the ideal way to beat N! :p). Normally you need to find 23 exits to reach cybie (level1 is easy so it doesn't count). AoH halves that but you can still spawncamp on dlvl 3 and the toughest enemies there are a few cacodemons (really only a few).

Hmm, read once more my first post in this topic. There i said that AoH's first level is dlvl 2. On dlvl 2 there are only humans, imps, demons and lost souls. And if you take a look at my first mortem once more, you will see that 10th level is possible to reach there.

Some hints that i can make after dozens of deaths while leveling on dlvl 2:
Once you spawned, first you objective is to find chaingunner and kill him 3 or more times to get enough ammo. At this time try to avoid demons as long as possible, they die only after 5-7 hits of your pistol. Collect every medikit you see. Leave health globes for worse times(when you will have approx 20% hp). I have noticed that usefull items very often are placed near barrels, so don't be lazy, move barrels out of globes. I haven't found shotgun usefull here, because to not loose health you must snipe enemies, and with shotgun it is not possible. When you got chaingun, the easiest exp is demons. They don't fire and they grants maximum exp among monsters on dlvl 2(exceps lost souls, but lost souls disappears after death, so no spawncamping can be used on them). And they can kill you only if you make a really stupid thing, or it they are more than 2.

Observations:

- Enemies don't respawn if you or another monster stand on their corpse.
- Corpses are 'swallowed' by water (see my earlier post)

Two more things to add:
- Monster's bodies are not disappearing if a barrel placed on them. They only swap to each other.
- Monster's bodies disappeares if on already existing corpse dies another monster. And then ressurects only last died monster.

My personal target build for N! is:
Ironman (3)
Tough as nails(3)
Hellrunner(3)
Brute(2)
Berserker(1)
Total level: 12

I'd like to add that imho if you are playing with chaingun and plasmagun, then you must use Eagle Eye level 2, because it allows you to remain coward all the time, and this can save your life.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2006, 10:01 by Blade »
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2006, 09:29 »

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 DaEezT, level 9 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a lost soul
 on level 6 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 64069 turns and scored 131960 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1046 out of 1145 hellspawn. (91%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Haste!

 He stormed the Chained Court.

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/70   Experience 30883/9
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +6

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 2)
    Hellrunner     (Level 2)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Brute          (Level 2)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chainsaw (4d6)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   nothing
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x74)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [m] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [n] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [o] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [p] 10mm ammo (x100)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    35 former humans
    618 former sergeants
    220 former captains
    35 imps
    98 demons
    5 lost souls
    2 cacodemons
    1 hell knight
    1 pain elemental

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 4 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 He then stormed the Chained Court.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 There he finally was killed by a lost soul.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 But there is nothing here!
 The hell knight hits you. You are bleeding! The imp fires! You are hit!
 You hit the hell knight. The hell knight dies. You lose blood! The lost
 soul hits you.
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 You hit the pain elemental. The pain elemental is bleeding! You lose blood!
 The lost soul hits you. The pain elemental spawns lost souls! The pain
 elemental hits you. The pain elemental loses blood. The pain elemental
 dies. The lost soul hits you.
 You miss the imp. The bleeding stops. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul
 hits you. The imp hits you. Your green armor is completely destroyed!
 The imp fires! Boom!
 The lost soul hits you.
 The lost soul hits you. You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 191 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 178 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 6 killed the bastard and survived.

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I goddamn hate it that even those stupid imps can destroy items with their splash. I just died because two berserk packs and one small health globe got destroyed by the imp/knight .....

and my scoreboard now looks like this

N 131960DaEezT        (L:9), killed by a lost soul on L6.
U 122606DaEezT        (L:11), killed by a Cyberdemon on L25.

L6 N! run is #1 and L25 UV run second :p
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2006, 09:32 »

Umm... I think that the AoD kill option is off... the trigger mechanisms for all special levels are "All Killed", and not "Given Enemy Killed :/
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2006, 09:37 »

Umm... I think that the AoD kill option is off... the trigger mechanisms for all special levels are "All Killed", and not "Given Enemy Killed :/

too bad. Apart from the imba Spear it also kinda makes the whole melee approach less useful, which is sad because the chainsaw really works well early on. But beating cybie with only 4d6 + brute and no extra armor... :/

Maybe I'll max out the defensive skills on my next try (only level9) and take Saab/Ee after that to help a bit with the chaingun and drop melee for now.
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2006, 03:27 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5 Beta 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 DaEezT, level 7 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a arch-vile
 on level 16 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 28693 turns and scored 96616 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 419 out of 635 hellspawn. (66%)
 He was an Angel of Haste!


-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -2/70   Experience 21734/7
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 2)
    Hellrunner     (Level 2)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [4/4] (89%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] red armor [4/4] (97%)
    [b] 10mm ammo (x75)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] power cell (x50)
    [l] small med-pack
    [m] small med-pack
    [n] small med-pack
    [o] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    19 former humans
    55 former sergeants
    110 former captains
    26 imps
    121 demons
    10 lost souls
    1 cacodemon
    3 barons of hell
    9 hell knights
    2 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    3 pain elementals

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 4 he battled through the complex.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 On level 8 he battled through the complex.
 On level 10 he found a hellish city.
 On level 12 he battled through the complex.
 On level 14 he battled through the complex.
 On level 16 he found a hellish city.
 There he finally was killed by a arch-vile.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames! The arch-vile
 raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames! The cacodemon fires!
 Boom! Argh!!! Lava!
 The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames! The arch-vile
 raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed. The arch-vile raises his
 arms! You are engulfed in flames! The arch-vile raises his arms! You
 are engulfed in flames!
 The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames! The arch-vile
 raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames! The arch-vile raises his
 arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 The cacodemon fires! Boom! The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed
 in flames! The arch-vile raises his arms! You are engulfed in flames!
 You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 194 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 181 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
 6 killed the bastard and survived.

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Three AVs hunted me down. The inv. globe I saw was destroyed by their attack and even the three large meds where useless because i was doen to 10% after two steps...
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Re: [N!] Any suggestions?
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2006, 03:26 »

I just came into an idea of destroying UC with a thermie. Is it possible? What about corpses? Do they appear after this small armageddon?

Another observation:

- Resurrection time seems to depend on monster toughness. I had to wait just a while for former human to resurrect, but Cacos or Knights were too lazy to respawn often (and I didn't want to move far away from their corspes ;) ).
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