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dual vs. single wield pistols? (and a couple random questions)
skarczew:
--- Quote from: punkbohemian on April 03, 2012, 05:27 ---Those bastards are fast. There's no way I could ever outrun one of them, even with max speed. I hate lost souls with a passion. I'm planning to build an energy pistol when I find the mods, if only for those bastards.
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You could try whacking Kornel with giant pink rubber dildo. Maybe it would help to change (again) Lost Souls. I dislike their current form as well.
Alternatively, try playing on UV.
punkbohemian:
--- Quote ---Try investing a point into hellrunner. You'll probably want to have dodgemaster before cybie.
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I'd do that if I was going for MGK, but for other builds, I have too many other trait obligations. As is, by the time I get to the bruiser brothers, I have only 4-5 traits under my belt. How many levels can one expect to get by endgame (per difficulty, of course) anyway?
I had considered developing a defense-oriented build (both active and passive, probably no master traits), but I haven't been terribly motivated to toy with the idea.
--- Quote ---BTW, you must go towards the door you came from.
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That's always my plan. This way I have access to a couple health globes if I need them.
--- Quote ---One of the ways is wear red armor and take Ber(or be in berserk through berserk pack) and rocket jump.
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Two problems with that. One, Ber is kind of a waste of a trait with a pistol build. Two, I can't use a rocket launcher playing AoMr.
Side note, does vampire work with ranged weapons? I'm guessing not.
--- Quote ---Alternatively, try playing on UV.
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How would that help? I'm getting my ass handed to me just on normal.
Klear:
--- Quote from: punkbohemian on April 03, 2012, 13:53 ---How would that help? I'm getting my ass handed to me just on normal.
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Well, on HMP and UV there are not lost souls in the anomaly (replaced by demons), but everything else is more challenging, so it's not really a good idea.
I assume you've played a couple of games by now... haven't you found any phase devices yet? I know it's not a good plan to rely on a random drop to pass a level, but I'm curious if you managed to pass the anomaly like this already.
shark20061:
--- Quote from: punkbohemian on April 03, 2012, 13:53 ---How many levels can one expect to get by endgame (per difficulty, of course) anyway?
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That's a hard question to answer, but I've figured it out up to the Anomaly, but first, the assumption list:
* 100% kills on all levels.
* You play all the specials and get 100% kills (in this case, Arena, (Un)Chained Court, and Wall).
* No caves (reduces XP) or mazes (increases XP).
* The assumed amount of XP is based on average XP / Danger point, and as such can fluctuate.
* No vaults (which spawn extra enemies, and thus increase XP)
Anyway, here you go, expected level at Start of Anomaly (Floor 8), by Difficulty:
ITYTD: 8,645 XP = Lv 5 / 41%
HNTR: 10,896 XP = Lv 5 / 98%
HMP: 12,761 XP = Lv 6 / 35%
UV: 18,381 XP = Lv 7 / 39%
N!: 24,767 XP = Lv 8 / 34%
For those interested, the calculations (spoilered because they take some space)
Spoiler: Calculations (click to show/hide)ITYTD: 98 Danger Points @ approx. 30 XP each = 2,940 XP + 141 XP (Phobos Entry) + 1,239 XP (Hell Arena) + 2,207 XP (Unchained Court) + 2,148 XP (The Wall)
HNTR: 169 Danger Points @ approx. 24 XP each = 4,056 XP + 178 XP (Phobos Entry) + 1,528 XP (Hell Arena) + 1,906 XP (Unchained Court) + 3,228 XP (The Wall)
HMP: 251 Danger Points @ approx. 20 XP each = 5,020 XP + 193 (Phobos Entry) + 1,398 XP (Hell Arena) + 1,670 XP (Unchained Court) + 4,480 XP (The Wall)
UV: 402 Danger Points @ approx. 21 XP each = 8,442 XP + 257 XP (Phobos Entry) + 2,038 XP (Hell Arena) + 2,588 XP (Unchained Court) + 5,056 XP (The Wall)
N!: 501 Danger Points @ approx. 25 XP each = 12,525 XP + 310 XP (Phobos Entry) + 2,758 XP (Hell Arena) + 3,106 XP (Unchained Court) + 6,068 XP (The Wall)
Edit: Fixed a small display error.
punkbohemian:
--- Quote ---haven't you found any phase devices yet?
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Sometimes. I would say I'd find them in about 25% of my games by the time I get to that level. It's strange. If I do find them, I find quite a few (at least 2-3), otherwise nothing.
I think I need to reconsider my defense (or lack thereof). I have no active or passive defense, just tactical, which I think is weaker w/o Int or MCe. It kinda makes me want to either ditch pistol masters entirely and go MCe (for stronger tactical), or go MGK for some form of active defense.
@shark: Thanks for the stats, but I was wondering about endgame (so I could plan ahead). I had a pretty solid guess about anomaly, what with how often my AoMr characters die there. :P
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