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dual vs. single wield pistols? (and a couple random questions)
AlterAsc:
MCe is one of possible ways to develop masterless high-offence(SoB,SoG,EE) build into something.Though personally i would rather take Tan/Iro instead.
shark20061:
--- Quote from: skarczew on April 07, 2012, 15:51 ---@shark:
Your stats are nice, but do not take few things into account:
- accuracy;
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I mentioned that already, that would be one huge variable, affects all cases equally, and only by a little, so that's really a non issue.
--- Quote from: skarczew on April 07, 2012, 15:51 ---- defense;
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Again, mentioned, but I did put some tables together anyway and there really isn't a major effect.
--- Quote from: skarczew on April 07, 2012, 15:51 ---- ammo efficiency (damage / ammo); higher ammo usage (MBD) does not really go well with later levels; also you can't always tank while reloading;
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...what? The same weapon is in every table (except for the speedloaders, but they use the same base weapon). How does this even matter? These stats don't care about that. All I'm comparing is the DPS between MSs, MBD, and a regular DG setup.
AlterAsc:
--- Quote from: shark20061 on April 09, 2012, 00:35 --- affects all cases equally, and only by a little, so that's really a non issue.
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That IS an issue.
MSs build have +8 accuracy with a basic pistol on the edge of vision, which translates in 98%.
MBD have +2, which is just 74%.And it blocks EE.
And missing almost quarter of your shots can't be called a little.
skarczew:
--- Quote from: shark20061 on April 09, 2012, 00:35 ---I mentioned that already, that would be one huge variable, affects all cases equally, and only by a little, so that's really a non issue.
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Post above. Also I would add that with crappy accuracy hitting targets at the edge of FOV (or outside of it) is really crappy.
--- Quote from: shark20061 on April 09, 2012, 00:35 ---Again, mentioned, but I did put some tables together anyway and there really isn't a major effect.
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Having tactical, active, or passive defense makes a big difference. "Not a major effect" in your opinion can translate into not being able to kill Cyberdemon, for example, IMHO.
--- Quote from: shark20061 on April 09, 2012, 00:35 ---...what? The same weapon is in every table (except for the speedloaders, but they use the same base weapon). How does this even matter? These stats don't care about that. All I'm comparing is the DPS between MSs, MBD, and a regular DG setup.
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Ammo can be a problem at some point. Pure DPS statistics won't tell you that instead of using four bullets to kill something you can use just two.
punkbohemian:
--- Quote from: skarczew on April 07, 2012, 15:46 ---\you are wrong.
They are not the same.
And MCe is a great addition to DG, thats true.
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The are the same to the extent that I die in the exact same spot with both. That is, the lost soul ambush before the bruiser brothers.
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