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[Ander Hammer]

For the uninitiated, the level feeling is the message(s) shown after 'You enter level x' upon entering a new level in many roguelikes.

Far too many times, I've just been derping around, speeding through, or tired, and completely spaced what Doomguy noticed when his boots hit a new floor, usually after feeling relatively safe. Setting the message buffer to something obscene and scrolling all the way back works, I guess. Having a key that re-prints the message would be a lot handier, though.

[thelaptop]

No.

That's because there's a key that shows you all the messages that had appeared.  Use that one and scroll back instead.

=)

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

Or even better, edit your config.lua and add a highlight for "'You enter level *" - this way it will be easier to find the moments when you changed levels :P

[Tormuse]

The issue I've had, in the past, with this is when you push "L" for the look command, the look message overwrites whatever the last message was.  It's happened to me about a hundred times that I've gotten to a new level, and either there was an exotic weapon or item nearby I wanted to look at, or maybe I started the level invulnerable or berserk, so I couldn't see what colour anything was and I started "looking" at things, and it erased the level feeling.  When that happens, it doesn't matter how long the message buffer is; the information for the level feeling is gone.

It's taken a lot of practice and discipline to remind myself, every time I get to a new level, to look at the level feeling *before* using the look command to look at stuff.  This is less of an issue for people who use the new mouse interface, but for die-hard console version players like myself, a repeat level feeling button might be nice.  :)

[Thexare]

No.

That's because there's a key that shows you all the messages that had appeared.  Use that one and scroll back instead.

=)

You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!



If you got to the end of that, I think you'll get the point of this message. :)

[thelaptop]

I never had that problem.  One of the first things I always do is set the scrollback buffer to something large.

Also, I have cultivated the habit of reading level feelings before doing anything.

Maybe instead of a special key for the level feeling, store the level feeling into its variable that shows up in the "scrollback" as "current level message" and show that after the scrollback with a special annotation.  That way, we don't need to invent a new key just for this one item.

[raekuul]

I remember, back in 0.9.9.0, I had my color codes set up perfectly so that I didn't miss a single critical message - pretty much anything that had "You feel*" was in blue, anything with "Your" was that brown color that actually looks yellow in windowed console mode, and... I don't really remember the rest.

[Deathwind]

I still use those color bindings

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Messages = {
       -- Danger!
   ["Warning!*"] = RED,
   ["*Nuclear missile deployed.*"] = RED,
   ["Your * damaged!"] = BROWN,
   ["Your * destroyed!"] = RED,
   ["You die*"] = RED,
   -- Level Clear feelings
   ["You feel relatively safe now."] = BLUE,
   ["*A pity you came to destroy us*"] = BLUE,
   ["So much for hellish fair-play."] = BLUE,
   ["Peace comes back to this evil place."] = BLUE,
   ["Why do they have to come in pairs? And what's that shimmering thing?"] = BLUE,
   ["As you kill the Angel of Death suddenly the cathedral starts to fall apart!"] = BLUE,
   ["Suddenly everything is peaceful.*"] = BLUE,
   ["That seems to be all of them, hopefully..."] = BLUE,
   ["That had damn well better be all of them!"] = BLUE,
   ["Well, they sure opened up. Now to see if there's anything left worth taking..."] = BLUE,
   ["Suddenly the webs fade. From under the webs, items emerge..."] = BLUE,
   ["Tough son of a bitch...*"] = BLUE,
   -- L00t feelings!
   ["You feel there is something really valuable here!"] = GREEN,
   ["The lab cache opens."] = GREEN,
   ["A presence! Of something holy! Here in this hell?*"] = GREEN,
   -- Levers of no fun and some profit
   ["In the State of Denmark there was the odor of decay..."] = RED,
   ["You feel that smell? That gasoline smell? Oh hell..."] = RED,
   ["The air is really humid here..."] = BLUE,
   ["You hear the trumpets of Jericho echoing in the distance..."] = CYAN,
   ["Khe, he, he, this will be a mess..."] = BROWN,
   -- Level events feelings
   ["The air seems deadly here, you better leave quick!"] = RED, -- TEST THIS
   ["You feel you need to run!"] = BROWN,
   -- Special level stairs
   ["You feel a breeze of morbid air..." ] = MAGENTA,
   ["You sense a passage to a place beyond..."] = MAGENTA,
   ["You shiver from cold..."] = MAGENTA,
}

[Nightshade]

I might be the guy doing the HUD for this game for the next release and here is my take on the level feeling message:

My problem with it as it is right now is that the importance of this message does not stand in good proportion to the a) time it's visible on the screen, and: b) the size of this message
I would therefore suggest that the level feeling -message to be displayed separatly from the normal info messages, in a larger font and centered to the top of the screen. It could stick there for I dunno, something like 5 or 10 moves before disappearing.
Would that be a good idea you think?

[Klear]

I would therefore suggest that the level feeling -message to be displayed separatly from the normal info messages, in a larger font and centered to the top of the screen. It could stick there for I dunno, something like 5 or 10 moves before disappearing.
Would that be a good idea you think?

Sounds good. I'd give this treatment to the flavour texts displayed upon entering/leaving special levels, since these suffer from the same problem as level feelings, except nobody gives a damn since they have no bearing on gameplay.

[ih8regin]

"You feel a sudden need to run" - if you're wearing Enviroboots/cerberus boots/acid proof boots (acid only) maybe it'll be better to "You feel a sudden need to laugh - hey, I can splash freely in this!" ;)

[ZicherCZ]

While we are at the subject, an option to have a "Press Enter ..." prompt at (some of the more dangerous) level feelings might be nice. Sure, it can be annoying for speedrunners, but that's why I suggest it as an option.
If such an option already exists, then sorry for resuggesting it, and please point me in the right direction :).
(The color coding provided by Deathwind might work nicely as well, gotta try it.)