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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #120 on: May 10, 2017, 18:48 »

There's two possible things that could be wrong here. One: I'm being too mean, and players should gain more levels overall, or more levels early on, or whatever compared to what I've listed in these tables. (It sounds like this is probably true...) Two: Experience values could be falling short of these expected benchmarks.

It's hard to say what "should" be.  As it is, it's a very tough game, but then, if I want something easier, I can play at an easier difficulty level.  :)  I'm currently trying to record another (non-melee) game at UV and I'll probably skip Blood Temple this time and forget about getting Conqueror.  In its current form, I don't think it's possible to get Conqueror in this game without a melee build; hitting Blood Temple at character level 3 means you just barely have enough time to get Berserker trait.
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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #121 on: May 16, 2017, 15:19 »

Here's the mortem for my latest, most successful non-melee UV game.  (Video available by request; it's a little less than two hours)

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If I'd used that last med pack at the end, I would have had a chance, but it was my last one in a game where med packs were always in short supply so I did a badly timed reload instead.  Oh well...

I'm curious about something:  On one of the levels, I had the level feeling, "You feel jumpy," and I thought that meant that I was about to start randomly teleporting, since I remembered that someone said something about teleportitis earlier in this thread, but nothing actually happened.  Was I supposed to start teleporting?  Is that a feature you got rid of?

Another level feeling I got:  "Hungry eyes peer at you from the darkness."  Never figured out what that meant either, mind you that's the level I died on, so maybe I just didn't get the chance to find out.
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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #122 on: December 26, 2017, 11:16 »

Links are dead, can we have a reupload?
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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2017, 11:41 »

Sorry about that, I'll fix it when I get home this evening. (Busy with holiday things...)

Edit: Links in the first post have been updated. Still need to release 0.16.0, but I'll try to get to it soon.
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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2017, 05:22 »

Thanks! I guess I should have waited a week or two until holiday season was over but I didn't think, sorry.
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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2018, 17:08 »

For no particular reason, I felt like playing the Inferno mod again lately.  After a bunch of games of varying difficulty and builds failed early on, I had this somewhat more successful game at UV in an Army of the Dead build.

Notes from this run:

I only entered Blood Temple because I was already berserk and had a phase device.  (Otherwise, I would have ignored it)  I just grabbed the Chainsaw and ran.

I didn't realize that this mod adds extra assemblies until the end, when I happened to glance at the assembly screen.  I stumbled across the Scout Armour assembly by accident, by putting random mods on my armour.  I never figured out what the "targeting system online" message meant, though.

I probably should have pushed forward faster during Acheron, because enemies were accumulating, thanks to bodies getting washed up toward the Arch-Viles, which I just couldn't friggin' find.  After I used my last med pack, I decided to give up and homing phase out.  Unfortunately, there was a sizeable crowd around the exit and I died in the same turn that I used the homing phase device.  :(

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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #126 on: April 12, 2019, 13:08 »

I've been playing this mod from time to time lately, experimenting with different builds, still hoping to have a successful non-melee UV game and this one was more successful than most as a masterless Technician build with standard load-out.

I was really fond of the synergy between the Lava Armor and the Aegis; any time the armour got damaged, I could use the Aegis to stand on lava for a bit to repair it...  so I was a bit dismayed when the Shadow Orb in Eberus unexpectedly converted the Aegis into a "Shadow Aegis" which gives invisibility instead of environmental protection.  That's still a nice bonus, but it didn't fit the strategy I was using and I'd already thrown away all my extra armour.  :|

I entered the Singularity invulnerable and I took advantage of that to rocket-jump to each of the portals to close them before anyone could react, so there were fewer enemies for me to deal with.  :)

Unlike my previous game, I made a point of charging forward in Acheron so I could take out the Arch-Viles before they could raise too many corpses.  I took advantage of the invisibility effect of the Shadow Aegis to run past most of the enemies.  Everything was going great up until everything went wrong in an instant when a stray shot from a Baron broke through a wall I had been using as cover and released a bunch of Mancubi on the other side and the ensuing barrage of rockets destroyed all other possible cover.  I was just barely able to get to the exit with 6% health and no medpacks.  After that, I died from an Arachnotron barrage after going around a blind corner.

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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #127 on: May 23, 2019, 09:44 »

So I played Inferno mod again, trying to win UV with a non-melee build, which is feeling more and more overly ambitious.  Nevertheless, I got even further than my previous game.  :)

In Singularity, I used the invisibility effect granted by the Shadow Aegis to sneak past enemies and shut down two of the portals, but I was overwhelmed before I could get to the other two and had to leave early.  Up 'til that point, I had 100% kills.

In Acheron, I was doing okay for a while, but couldn't get to the last few(?) Arch-Viles and I realized that the bodies being raised from the river, in addition to not giving you experience, don't even drop any ammo!  So I was depleting my resources without any gain.  Once I ran out of med packs, I decided it was time to homing phase out.  The fact that ammo is limited neatly highlights the fact that melee builds have a *huge* advantage in this mod.  As much as I'd like to prove that it's doable without melee, I might just try a melee build next.

In the end, the opposition in Ptolomea was just too much for me.  I tried to homing phase out, but for some reason, it didn't teleport me to the exit.  I was surrounded with no cover and died very quickly.

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Re: The Inferno Module
« Reply #128 on: May 25, 2019, 03:40 »

So I tried a game with my favourite build, Vampyre, and it reinforced what I said above that melee builds are basically easy mode in this mod.  (Relatively speaking; it still took several tries for me to get to Vampyre trait)  In fact, it was even easier than I realized, because I discovered that getting melee kills while invisible (like with using the Shadow Aegis) doesn't wake enemies up!  :o  On Ptolomea, the level that absolutely destroyed me in the previous game, I was able to kill about 3/4 of the enemies without any opposition.  (I had the Longinus Spear by that point, so everything died from one hit; I basically snuck around the whole map, silently backstabbing everyone)  :D

I was four kills shy of YAAM, thanks to some guys that spawned during my fight with the Simulacrum.  *Sigh...*  :|

I don't know if anyone is still maintaining this mod, but I see a couple of minor errors.  The final kill count is correct, but the in-game kill count from the @ screen got messed up when I went down one of the blue stairs while there were still enemies on the level.  It showed 23 unkilled enemies for the rest of the game, even though I killed everything.  Also, I notice that I'm credited as getting the Betrayal Token twice.

This is still a fun mod.  :)  I wonder if I can find another build that works.

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