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[AlterAsc]

With SoG3 you deal 6*(2d4+3) = 48 damage over 2.4s(20 DPS) then you have to reload/swap to prepared pistol.
With SoG2 and DG you deal 2*3*(2d4+2) = 42 damage over 2.16s(19.44 DPS) and you can continue firing.
So while DPS with DG is lower you can deal more damage before reloading and that often means that you don't need to reload mid-fight.

[Klear]

So while DPS with DG is lower you can deal more damage before reloading and that often means that you don't need to reload mid-fight.

Yeah, but when you do have to reload, you are screwed.

Besides, with SoG and no DG, you'll either have a second pistol prepared, or an ammo box, which takes care of the reloading problems.

[AlterAsc]

Nope, you're not screwed because you just killed your enemy and you have all the time in the world.And it's smart to fight them one by one not one-vs-all.
And i assume we are talking about what's best on char lvl3.

[Klear]

Tell that to the RNG =)

In any case, my point is that if you shoot your 6 bullets, swap to a secondary pistol and shoot 6 more, you'll (probably, again I am too lazy to do the math) have more DPS than wehn dualgunning. Since you're likely to be level 3 in the Arena, this is helpful for those times when you are ambushed by more than one lost souls/demon and can't retreat it time.

[AlterAsc]

If you swap to secondary pistol your DPS over 12 bullets is 12*8/5.6 = 17.14, which is lower than 19.44 with DG.

[skarczew]

I have never done math about it, but my gameplay experience / feeling matches AlterAsc's calculations - DG instead of SoG (as a third trait) increases your relative DPS, as you do not have to switch / reload the gun.

[eharper256]

I noticed you frequently on DCSS Tavern forum - so a warm welcome to you, fellow Crawler, and good luck to you :).

Aye, you probably have, I was the insane one that collated a huge stack of data about crawl into an Excel spreadsheet. :D

Speaking of which, I probably should update that sheet. Alot of the vets pointed out niggling little errors and typos I need to fix still.

As for DG vs. SoG at Level 3, I noticed the difference seemed pretty high in DG's favour, since I did a SoG single pistol build just before this one. (never got to Sharpshooter with that, mind you, died at the Anomaly since I didn't have a Phase Device). SoG 3 was okay on this build as I had for 5th level, but I'm not sure if it was worth it, would have preferred Gun Kata a level sooner, to be honest.

[Tormuse]

As for the Arena Master, the strategy I usually use is to wait for him to come close to the central structure, and then grab the Chainsaw and charge him with it.  (grab one of the Berserk packs too if you feel like you need the extra duration)  You'll most likely get blasted once, but after that, he'll be restricted to his melee attack which isn't very strong.  Personally, I don't usually have much trouble defeating him this way.

[skarczew]

As for the Arena Master, the strategy I usually use is to wait for him to come close to the central structure, and then grab the Chainsaw and charge him with it.  (grab one of the Berserk packs too if you feel like you need the extra duration)  You'll most likely get blasted once, but after that, he'll be restricted to his melee attack which isn't very strong.  Personally, I don't usually have much trouble defeating him this way.

Strategy is fine, just remember you can't attack with Chainsaw on some challenges (like AoMr) :P .

[eharper256]

As for the Arena Master, the strategy I usually use is to wait for him to come close to the central structure, and then grab the Chainsaw and charge him with it.  (grab one of the Berserk packs too if you feel like you need the extra duration)  You'll most likely get blasted once, but after that, he'll be restricted to his melee attack which isn't very strong.  Personally, I don't usually have much trouble defeating him this way.

Actually, this helped a bit. I killed Arena Master for the first time today by just berserk charging him. Of course, said character then died to Hell Knights bum-rushing him on the Wall later, but oh well...

I think the problem I was having before was that I was trying to win a shoot off against him, which frankly is a bit foolish since he has smite targeting and I don't. Lulz.