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IronBeer:
According to some of the top-elite players around here, there is a way to guarantee a DS spawn, but it's extremely difficult.

Kolosus:

--- Quote from: IronBeer on April 26, 2012, 14:09 ---According to some of the top-elite players around here, there is a way to guarantee a DS spawn, but it's extremely difficult.

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That's what I had seen posted. I wondered if it applied to Aof100 AND Normal Map (Challenge and Normal Games).

Tormuse:
As far as I know, it's any Nightmare game except Ao100.  I've gotten the guaranteed DS to spawn once and I'm sure I could do it again, but I don't really want to put in the effort unless I'm sure I've got a really good theory about how to wield it.  I have a couple of ideas, but they are things that could potentially screw up the run if they turn out to be false.

Kolosus:

--- Quote from: Tormuse on April 26, 2012, 14:37 ---As far as I know, it's any Nightmare game except Ao100.  I've gotten the guaranteed DS to spawn once and I'm sure I could do it again, but I don't really want to put in the effort unless I'm sure I've got a really good theory about how to wield it.  I have a couple of ideas, but they are things that could potentially screw up the run if they turn out to be false.

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I have a theory about how to get it to spawn, but I don't have the skill for N!. I'm not even close to that level, especially if it takes what I think it does.
As far as picking it up, I can't imagine how it could screw up a run.

AStranger:

--- Quote from: IronBeer on April 26, 2012, 14:09 ---According to some of the top-elite players around here, there is a way to guarantee a DS spawn, but it's extremely difficult.

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Wonderful, because what this game needs is more hidden secrets that the players aren't allowed to know. Tactics is about knowing all the moves you can make and choosing the best one, not blindly fumbling around until something good happens. I can't even count the amount of times I hauled the Arena Master's Staff around without using it, because the game won't tell you what it is for. Eventually I just got sick of it and waited for someone to update the wiki. The first time I (and many others) used the Lava Element the end result was a nuked marine, because the game refused to explain the item. This makes it really hard to try to convince my roguelike playing friends to try DoomRL. The argument I usually hear is "I only have X hours for video games, I want to play a game where all the information is known. so I'll just stick with Crawl".

Sorry about the tangent/rant, I've just kept this bottled up too long. I just wish the game/community didn't actively hide information from the players. For the record I have used the Berserker's Armor before and I've fought Apostles, so this rant isn't because I don't know the secrets, it's the fact that the secrets really take away from the tactical nature of the game. Hidden secrets may be fun for some, but are a massive turn off for others.

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