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ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« on: October 29, 2012, 19:00 »

Peril has struck the 'Forge and we need your help! The ChaosForge development PC had a hardware failure and does not boot reliably any more -- time to buy a new PC, and do upgrades. I'd like to humbly ask you for a donation. If the free ChaosForge games have given you a good time, now is the best moment to give something back to help out!

This time, however, I want to do things a little differently -- I want to give you, the donator, something back. Inspired by Kickstarter reward tiers, I decided to do something similar, and to see if it provides an incentive, and to see if it is the right way to go :). The prizes below are for donations done during this Donation Drive only and will be unavailable once it ends!

All of the rewards are digital, because due to the urgent and unexpected nature of this situation, we didn't have time to prepare any physical ones :/.

Also, while the chance of going much over the goal is not big, I promise to have some strech goals planned if it does!

  • $16 - Beta Access to all current ChaosForge projects, Supporter status on forum, my deepest thanks, and your name/nick on the next DoomRL version supporter list (startup screen). Unlike a normal donation, your name/nick will be featured on a supporters section on the revamped DoomRL website (before the year ends), with an optional link and/or comment (nothing offensive).
  • $32 - The above + your name/nick (or fictional name/surname as long as it is not too silly) will be added to the list of random names (the ones that are picked when the player doesn't enter a name), only if you want to of course!
  • $64 - All of the above and co-design a unique for DoomRL (it needs to be balanced though) that can be named after you (as long as it's not downright silly) -- an example is Malek's Armor. They will be rare to spawn *OR* be used in AliensRL with restrictions in the nature of the weapon for the latter. Additionally, you can choose for us to use your name (or fictional non-silly name) in the plot of AliensRL.
  • $128 - All of the above + design/co-design (you give the idea, we handle the coding) a special level that may randomly spawn in DoomRL when playing Angel of 100. The level cannot have any new types of enemies but can feature your item *OR* your chosen name may be a major villain/character in the plot of AliensRL.
  • $256 - All of the above + Supporter of Chaos rank on the forum. Including access to the Temple of Chaos where future projects are decided and early access (TBA) to the Next Project (TM) -- shape it from where it begins! Also, your name/nick will be permanently on the startup screen as special thanks.
  • $512 - All of the above + we'll do a DoomRL mod by your design to be available using the upcoming mod server. It can be even a Total Conversion (support will appear with the next version) as long as it won't take more than a few days to complete. Unfortunately, graphics cannot be included :/. You will be listed as the author.
  • $1024 - (just for completeness' sake) All of the above + special PERMANENT rank on forum (your choice of title) + a single version of the ChaosForge roguelike of your choice done and dedicated in your name.
  • $2048 - (just because it's fun :P) All of the above + and I'll take part in the next 7-day rogue-like competition realizing your idea (with as much design input as you want to give).

So please, help the ChaosForge survive! And spread the word among fellow ChaosForge players -- we need all the help we can get!


Head to the donation page and help out!
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 22:12 »

I'd love to donate, but I refuse to do business with Paypal anymore due to an assortment of bullshit. Plus, I can't use my account anyway without uploading information I have no way to upload.

Are there any other options?
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 22:16 »

Any suggestions welcome. Unfortunately the two major competitors (Amazon payments and Google Checkout) allow only for US/UK based receivers. BitCoin on the other hand is hard to cash in in general.

Would MoneyBookers be a sensible alternative?
« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 22:20 by Kornel Kisielewicz »
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 22:46 »

Reading about a fair number of issues there. Possible security issues, definitely a tendency to trip anti-fraud systems (which may be why people are worried about security issues)

Unfortunately it's not free for the sender, but Western Union maybe? If nothing else, they're established enough that they wouldn't have the latter problem.

(I can't donate for a couple days at the least anyway, though)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 22:55 »

Western Union is of course an option, but the fees are large, especially for small amounts :/. If you need any information (address, or bank information - maybe a wire transfer?) just PM me.

BTW, if ChaosForge would accept Credit Cards by itself, would it change things? There is such a possibility but for the future (and it has a yearly upkeep cost).
« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 22:59 by Kornel Kisielewicz »
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 23:31 »

I don't have a credit card, but I have a Visa debit card, never had an issue with running it as credit. So yeah, that'd work.

And depending on how much my next check is, I'll look into it - the three-day transfer option didn't appear to have fees when I checked, but that was just a quick skim.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2012, 00:01 »

I also can't do paypal. I would like to donate in Bitcoins in possible. You never did reply after I posted in your bitcoin thread. :)

http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,5049.msg43814.html
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2012, 00:03 »

Problem is that here there's no reliable way to convert BitCoins to currency... :/. I'll look into it.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2012, 00:42 »

Problem is that here there's no reliable way to convert BitCoins to currency... :/. I'll look into it.
http://mtgox.com/ is what most people use, but I admit, it can be a painful process. Ideally, you would be able to just use your bitcoins to buy whatever you needed. However, unless you want to buy some drugs from silk road, there's not a lot of ways to spend them.

Actually, I just had another idea anyways. I could give someone some Bitcoins for paypal money on the bitcoin forums, and have them send the funds to your paypal. I think I'll do that. :) When I do, I'll post the email that will send you the money so that you know it's from me. Is that ok?
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2012, 00:45 »

Of course it is :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2012, 00:52 »

Of course it is :)
Great! I'm in debt now because I just bought my best friend a cool birthday present. But as soon as I get more money, I'll donate as much as I can (which isn't much.)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2012, 05:41 »

When does this donation drive end? When enough money is raised?

I probably won't have funds to throw around in the near future and I have donated recently, but  who knows? Maybe I'll have a generous mood once paycheck arrives.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2012, 05:56 »

I might toss a couple of bucks your way too then this week. I actually need new shoes, but meh... my old ones aren't THAT worn off yet. :P
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2012, 07:14 »

BTW, I'm a little tempted by the 512,- option, just to have DukeRL made, but it's way too much money for me =(
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2012, 08:50 »

It'll probably run either for two weeks or a month (didn't decide yet). So still some time for the next paycheck to arrive :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 11:43 »

BTW, I'm a little tempted by the 512,- option, just to have DukeRL made, but it's way too much money for me =(
That is sooo tempting... I feel like nudging my donation just to get this done.

Note: Kornel's tiered rewards are ambiguous with regards to how the amounts are computed -- cumulative over the donation drive or on a particular donation transaction.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 11:56 »

Rewards will be based on the cumulative donations during the donation period. So no reason to wait :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2012, 19:00 »

24 hours past, and we're 46% to the original goal!

Thank you everyone, I never expected such a reaction - seems as I might have a chance to post stretch goals after all!
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2012, 04:55 »

I've donated in appreciation for your excellent development of DoomRL. Thank you Kornel.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2012, 08:58 »

Are there any other options?
Cable/wire transfer. In EU it is not so bad when you transfer Euros.

Or credit card.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2012, 09:23 »

Paypal accepts credit/debit card without setting up an account. As for Wire transfer or any other form of payment that I can accept in Poland, PM me for details. Be sure to check the fees of transferring to Poland though!
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2012, 14:18 »

I'd donate like 128 or 256 bucks, but I don't have a checking account/debt account and I don't think my parents would be too wild about donating for a computer game.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 07:54 »

Charity and community are worth a lot on a personal level to the giver if it's to a cause you believe is worth supporting. And you'll make a far bigger difference donating here than many other places.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 09:46 »

GinDiamond, you can also use the oldest method in the book - find someone with a credit card or paypal, log in on the forum on their computer, ask them to do the donation and afterwards hand it to them in cash :).
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 14:55 »

BTW, I'm a little tempted by the 512,- option, just to have DukeRL made, but it's way too much money for me =(
j0 Klear, I think by the rules that Kornel has set (heheheheh), I've gone past the USD512 mark for the donation drive.  I'll let you work out the details to get DukeRL made.

;-)

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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 03:02 »

j0 Klear, I think by the rules that Kornel has set (heheheheh), I've gone past the USD512 mark for the donation drive.  I'll let you work out the details to get DukeRL made.

;-)

Don't disappoint us.

Oh man.. that's been my dream since not long after I discovered DoomRL. I guess it's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum play through all the duke games my computer can handle and soak up the atmosphere.

Edit: Also, this is extremely generous of you, almost to the point I'm having problems accepting it. On the other hand, I already have dozens of ideas... I guess I'll do my best then.
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 14:00 »

Also, this is extremely generous of you, almost to the point I'm having problems accepting it. On the other hand, I already have dozens of ideas... I guess I'll do my best then.
I live by the forge, I die by the forge -- I am the Chaos Fanatic!

But you have the ideas, so it is only right that you help make DukeRL the TC a success.  I mean, I want DukeRL too, but I'm bad at idea-ing.  =)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2012, 15:16 »

I hope you make your goal!
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 20:57 »

Hmm, I'm having trouble deciding on a level (one of the low ones).  I feel silly asking this as the amount is low, but is it kosher to withdraw a bounty if I donate to the drive?
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 22:10 »

Hmm, I'm having trouble deciding on a level (one of the low ones).  I feel silly asking this as the amount is low, but is it kosher to withdraw a bounty if I donate to the drive?

Absolutely not.

However, which bounty would you like me to take over for you in lieu of your donation to the drive?
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2012, 14:25 »

We're at 80%! At 90% we'll publish the stretch goals!

Thanks all the awesome people :D
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2012, 16:28 »

Update: I'll definitely be able to donate the Friday after this one (so, just under two weeks). I'll be going with Western Union I think; Bank to Bank has no fee, and if I use my debit card it should be in the next day (as opposed to up to five business days).

I'll PM you to get the information closer to that time, otherwise I'll forget I did it and lose track of it, because that's what I do.
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2012, 22:02 »

Absolutely not.

However, which bounty would you like me to take over for you in lieu of your donation to the drive?

don't worry about it - just checking.

We're at 80%! At 90% we'll publish the stretch goals!

I think I've put you over 90% now :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2012, 13:26 »

You deserve every penny/cent/peso, Kornel! Keep on rocking!
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2012, 13:35 »

Woah, you just blew the target, thank you! :D

And I didn't even have time to post the 90% stretch goals yet!
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2012, 15:52 »

First post (even if I was lurking here before) and donated as well.
Not as much as I would have liked to, but this month is a bit particular... Hope it helps though, even if it's already in the stretch goals :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2012, 04:22 »

Back in 2008 I said I would donate $50 once I turned 18. Came back 4 years later to deliver
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2012, 10:26 »

Back in 2008 I said I would donate $50 once I turned 18. Came back 4 years later to deliver
You sir, are loyal.  I think Kornel appreciates it a lot.  =)
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2012, 15:21 »

You sir, are loyal.  I think Kornel appreciates it a lot.  =)
Indeed! :)
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2012, 11:59 »

There we go, finally managed to get a transfer to go through. Should be in your account in a day or two.

But I had to use my debit card, meaning there was a fee added, meaning I couldn't afford to go for the $64. This annoys me.

I'll try to get the other $32 to you sometime; it'll be too late for the donation drive, but I said I'd do it so I'm going to.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2012, 09:01 »

Finally donated after a long, long time to a game that deserves all of the dollars.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2012, 03:31 »

And we're done! With a whopping 218% of goal! I'll post a summary announcement later today -- thank you to everyone :)))))
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2012, 13:53 »

So, where's that announcement?
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2012, 19:37 »

Hopefully Kornel didn't get mugged carrying 12988.0064 zloty to the computer store.
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Re: ChaosForge Donation Drive!
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2012, 04:14 »

So, where's that announcement?
Here. :D
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