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Author Topic: [U|Ao100|30|YASD] I need a lot of patience and mathematics...  (Read 2220 times)

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Approx. 4th death, Ultra-violence, Ao100. 2 first attempts were unsuccessful - level 7, out of medpacks, killed by something. 3d attempt was good... until for level 23 I forgot about low health. Now, I need some math - where a point when I must use a medpack... Have a ~30% of health and ... "Damn, man, this Hell Knights only drops it to 8-10%, and than I use medpack" - ouch!..

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 A100-ultra, level 15 Hell Baron 1st Lieutenant Marine,
 was bruised by a baron of hell on level 30 of Hell.
 He survived 70756 turns and scored 287908 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 45 minutes and 35 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 1014 out of 1033 hellspawn. (98%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of 100!

 He saved himself once.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 0
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/60   Experience 110904/15
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  Rel->Rel->SM->SoB->SoB->TH->TH->MAc->Fin->Jug->Fin->WK->WK->Bad->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   onyx armor [4] (AP)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   assault plasma rifle (2d6)x3 [4/40]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   10mm ammo chain (x96)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] elephant gun (12d3) [1/1]
    [b] plasmatic double shotgun (9d3)x2 [0/2]
    [c] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1]
    [d] minigun (1d6)x8 [200/200]
    [e] missile launcher (6d6) [4/4]
    [f] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [g] shotgun shell (x39)
    [h] rocket (x7)
    [i] power cell (x48)
    [j] power cell (x50)
    [k] power cell (x50)
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] phase device
    [r] envirosuit pack
    [s] power mod pack
    [t] plasteel boots [4/4] (100%) (PT)
    [u] 10mm ammo chain (x250)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    None

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    73 former humans
    77 former sergeants
    52 former captains
    126 imps
    60 demons
    281 lost souls
    37 cacodemons
    27 hell knights
    87 barons of hell
    58 arachnotrons
    11 former commandos
    34 pain elementals
    17 revenants
    28 mancubi
    39 arch-viles
    7 nightmare imps

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 11 he assembled a elephant gun!
  On level 13 he assembled a plasmatic shrapnel!
  On level 17 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 17 he found the Acid Spitter!
  On level 21 he assembled a assault rifle!
  Level 24 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 26, hell froze over!
  On level 30 he finally was bruised by a baron of hell.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The
 missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The baron
 of hell dies.
 The baron of hell suddenly rises from the dead!
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The
 missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. You
 hear the scream of a freed soul!
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The
 missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The
 missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. You
 are hit! You are hit! You die!... Press <Enter>...
 of hell dies.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 104 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 89 of those were killed.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 14 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 5 killed the bitch and survived.
 7 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Re: [U|Ao100|30|YASD] I need a lot of patience and mathematics...
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 06:32 »

Depends on where I am in a game. Against formers I try not to drop below 25% or so, but in Hell I don't like to drop below 50% unless I've got a lot of fire resistance. Multiple mancubi shots have a way of instagibbing you
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Re: [U|Ao100|30|YASD] I need a lot of patience and mathematics...
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 06:35 »

Knights - yes. Barons, however, ...
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Re: [U|Ao100|30|YASD] I need a lot of patience and mathematics...
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 11:39 »

As Cheesybox says, it depends...  How low I let myself go before I use a med-pack depends on a lot of things.

First is speed:  If I'm below normal speed, I want my health higher, because there's greater potential for the enemies to get in two shots for each of my moves.

Second is how well protected I am:  I'm referring to both traits and armour here.  If I haven't taken any levels in Ironman or Tough as Nails, I want to be extra cautious, although, if I have, say, Malek's Armour, I can afford to be a bit more stingy with med-packs.

Third is depth:  If Mancubi or similar enemies are around, you want to keep your health high.

In your case, you were wearing armour that slowed you down, even with the agility mod, and didn't get Hellrunner until right at the end.  Power-modded Onyx Armour offers decent protection, (I got through my first Ao100 game with that) but with no Ironman, every shot that hits you is going to hurt more.  And at level 30 Ultra-Violence, you'll be encountering some of the more dangerous enemies in the game.  In those circumstances, 30% is far too low to walking around with.  I'd probably want to keep my health at 50-60% or higher, and even then, it might not be enough and I would still want to be very, very cautious as I'm exploring.  (There isn't really a mathematical formula I use; I just weigh my options and the relative risk, and go with a number that feels right)

I recommend taking levels in Ironman next time; it really helps put off the instadeaths.  Depending on your playing style, Intuition 2 might also be helpful in terms of knowing when it's safe to let your guard down.  (Although Ammochain blocks that)
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