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So it was another run to try to finally win angel of Markmanship UV, i wanted to win it with 100% kill in order to gain my second platinium badges..
things were going well, i found a combat pistol just after hell armor and the holy Grammaton Cleric Beretta a few level before the Mastermind.

when i faced her, things was ok, she was half dead and she wasn't able to touch me, in my mind it was over..
But i did some unforgiving shit : when she was out of vision because she stopped to follow me around the pillar i allowed myself to dualreload -> great idea,  the mastermind instant killed me.

So i m pissed of maybe more because i know i deserve it..

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Igor Savin, level 13 Hell Baron Major Scout,
 let the Spider Mastermind pwn him on level 8 of Hell.
 He survived 81111 turns and scored 203957 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 25 minutes and 13 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 772 out of 773 hellspawn. (99%)
 He was a real killing machine...
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 2
  Levels completed : 2

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Hell Champion Medal
  Hell Armorer Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  ############....####................M...........####....###
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  ################.......####.....####.....####.......#######
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 75395/13
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 5)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)
    Gun Kata         (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->DG->SoG->HR->HR->DM->MGK->Fin->Fin->WK->SoG->SoG->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [4/4] (55%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   combat pistol (3d4) [15/15] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   Grammaton Cleric Beretta (1d8)x3 [18/18]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] pistol (2d6) [6/6] (P2)
    [b] pistol (2d4) [6/8] (B1T1)
    [c] blue armor [4/4] (100%) (P)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x65)
    [i] small med-pack
    [j] small med-pack
    [k] small med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] envirosuit pack
    [o] envirosuit pack
    [p] fire skull
    [q] 10mm ammo chain (x250)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    79 former humans
    68 former sergeants
    49 former captains
    174 imps
    56 demons
    128 lost souls
    41 cacodemons
    18 hell knights
    60 barons of hell
    28 arachnotrons
    12 former commandos
    9 pain elementals
    7 revenants
    9 mancubi
    22 arch-viles
    8 nightmare imps
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 Cyberdemon

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 18 he found the Berserker Armor!
  He nuked level 19!
  On level 21, hell froze over!
  On level 21 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally let the Spider Mastermind pwn him.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the
 Spider Mastermind.
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 You reload the combat pistol.
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
 You dualreload your guns!
 You stop running.
 Boom! Boom!
 You reload the combat pistol.
 You dualreload your guns!
 You dualreload your guns! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 You die!... Press <Enter>...
 of hell dies. You dualreload your guns!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 791 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 760 of those were killed.
 4 of those were killed by something unknown.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 24 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 4 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 17 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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i found the berserk armor i kept it until i realized that i wouldn't be able to use DS if i found it because i was in AoMr

i m sure now i can do this challenge but need time and luck to have a good run.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 15:38 by leparfum »
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 17:28 »

Unfortunately, both combat pistol and GCB have quite long reload time...
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 19:23 »

Oof!  Death by Dualreload!  :|  I've done that.  That looks *really* frustrating to get all the way to the end, just to lose there, especially with all those med-packs and all that armour.  (Plenty of ammo too!)  :|
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2013, 23:20 »

As far as AoMr goes, both Cybie and Spidey are the reason to make and keep those speedloader pistols.
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 07:46 »

This challenge can be easily done with Sharpshooter IF you can survive early levels, especially Hell Arena and unChained Court. And I don't even talk about GCB, sharpshooter with GCB and ammo chain can steamroll everything in the game.
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 12:06 »

This challenge can be easily done with Sharpshooter IF you can survive early levels, especially Hell Arena and unChained Court. And I don't even talk about GCB, sharpshooter with GCB and ammo chain can steamroll everything in the game.
The challenge can be easily done with Gun Kata or CatEye Glass Cannon build and that is not the point of the mortem.
The point is that Dualreload sux - it is a bonus that has more drawbacks than advantages.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 12:23 by skarczew »
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 12:50 »

Agree, I never use it, for this reason, and prefer using the free switch between guns to reload both guns separately.

I think when you have those two guns, you should never reload in front of a boss... just run beyond a corner :p
Oh, and btw, you had a P-modded blue armor. did you forget to wear it ? I don't think the few % of speed would have changed much, but the 20% plasma resistance could have.
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 15:36 »

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Unfortunately, both combat pistol and GCB have quite long reload time...
yeah i saw :p, i m not used to check all  parameters (it's a mistake too) and sometimes i just Neglect my reload time, my move speed, less and less though.

Tormuse : yes it was but i had a fun time and i know i was able to do it so.. :)

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This challenge can be easily done with Sharpshooter IF you can survive early levels, especially Hell Arena and unChained Court. And I don't even talk about GCB, sharpshooter with GCB and ammo chain can steamroll everything in the game.

i tried like 40 times  AoMr UV with a tech in order to take sharpshooper but i never lived long enough to have this master trait.. don't have dualgunner make the beginning too hard for me...

For the armor yeah i realized this today!  i still make a lot of mistakes...




today i retried to do this and i finally succeed  :


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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Igor Savin, level 14 Hell Baron Major Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind on level 8 of Hell.
 He survived 77886 turns and scored 274593 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 35 minutes and 52 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 716 out of 716 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!

 He saved himself 2 times.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 5

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Hell Champion Medal
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Marksman Gold Badge
  Marksman Platinum Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  ###########..........####..............####..........######
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  #############........####....%####.....####........########
  ##############.......####.....####.....####.......#########
  ###############...............####...............##########
  ################..............X.................###########
  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 81822/14
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Son of a gun     (Level 5)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)
    Gun Kata         (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->DG->SoG->HR->HR->DM->MGK->Fin->Fin->WK->SoG->SoG->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   powered red armor [5/5] (100%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   energy pistol (2d5) [6/6]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   pistol (2d6) [6/6] (P2)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] blue armor [2/2] (200%) (B)
    [b] Necroarmor [6/6] (100%)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] power cell (x50)
    [h] power cell (x50)
    [i] power cell (x50)
    [j] power cell (x12)
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] phase device
    [o] Enviroboots [0]
    [p] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [q] 10mm ammo chain (x250)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    60 former humans
    67 former sergeants
    62 former captains
    149 imps
    50 demons
    99 lost souls
    34 cacodemons
    35 hell knights
    51 barons of hell
    35 arachnotrons
    12 former commandos
    9 pain elementals
    20 revenants
    10 mancubi
    17 arch-viles
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 10 he found the Revenant's Launcher!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he assembled a power armor!
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  Level 14 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he found the Necroarmor!
  On level 18 he assembled a energy pistol!
  On level 18 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 18 he found the Enviroboots!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  He nuked level 22!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind.
 You reload the energy pistol.
 You dualreload your guns!
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies.
 Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now. You dualreload your guns!
 You picked up a small med-pack.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 803 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 771 of those were killed.
 4 of those were killed by something unknown.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 25 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 4 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 18 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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it was a good run i thins, i played well and had normal luck.
funny thing, i did CC thinking i was going to do the easy version ( i had a enviropacks) because i thought i just did 2 rounds in hell arena ( i sometimes do that) i left the CC with 22% and no armor... :p

i kept the red power amor i made at level 11 all the games, very useful with the high defense, fire resistance and no move penaliti.. And the melee bonus  was nice to because i sometimes need to deal with revenant and "spider plasma" at close range.

i found the necroarmor but didn't use it, i don't like it : if you wear it all the time and take damages it will take all your life; good if you could avoid damages but want have a "life assurance" against very big damages?? 

It was the first time i made energy pistol  it was helpful to deal with ammo trouble.

This time i didn't let a chance at Mastermind, with HR 3 + tactical boot  it was a piece of cake (+ no dual reload this time... )


cherry on the cake  :

http://www.noelshack.com/2013-02-1357598050-2013-01-07-22-53-56-igor-savin.png

yeah! :)
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 17:28 by leparfum »
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Re: [U|AoMr|99%|YASD] dual reload killed me..
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 07:25 »

The point is that Dualreload sux - it is a bonus that has more drawbacks than advantages.
Well, it's like a shotgun's full reload - a trap for lazy/bored players.
i tried like 40 times  AoMr UV with a tech in order to take sharpshooper but i never lived long enough to have this master trait.
Yep, that's the point of most (working) tech's mastertraits. They are powerful, but give no  early bonus like berserking or dualgunning. I think it was intended.
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"Cherry on the cake" sounds quite frenchy to me
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=fr_FR&word1=%22cherry+on+the+cake%22&word2=%22icing+on+the+cake%22

A bit like writing "potato" with an 'e' :p
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"Cherry on the cake" sounds quite frenchy to me
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=fr_FR&word1=%22cherry+on+the+cake%22&word2=%22icing+on+the+cake%22

A bit like writing "potato" with an 'e' :p

We say that as well in Czech (Třešnička na dortu).
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I think I would put icing on a cake and a cherry on a sundae.  :)

Although, I think a cherry goes well on lots of desserts.

EDIT:  Corrected an embarrassing typo.  Cherries do not go well on "deserts."  :P
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We say that as well in Czech (Třešnička na dortu).
Similar in Polish (Wisienka na torcie) :D .
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I think I would put icing on a cake and a cherry on a sundae.  :)

Although, I think a cherry goes well on lots of deserts.

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"Cherry on the cake" sounds quite frenchy to me
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=fr_FR&word1=%22cherry+on+the+cake%22&word2=%22icing+on+the+cake%22

A bit like writing "potato" with an 'e' :p
well, actually i m french ;) but i have never but any cherry on my cake, i wasn't sure for the English translation of "la cerise sur le gateau" :s)
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