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Author Topic: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave  (Read 2869 times)

tylor

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I was just not prepared for facing this... Mentally, mostly, because in hindsight, I had enough ways to save myself. Shotgun box, missile launcher, napalm launcher, running into the lava in hope that demons will kill themselves.
I managed to kill most with shotgun and pistol, teleported around some with staff and phase, but it was just a little not enough...

On the plus side, I was able to advance so far with a very poor luck in drops. Probably only really good thing I found was combat pistol. I was thinking about what to do with it, even considered throwing it away, but then made a stormbolter and realized that best thing in this gun is it's huge clip. Also, triggerhappy works with it, so I had triple burst in 0.085 or so seconds. So, everything was effectively timefrozen while I was shooting - until it's time to reload.

Also, fire resistance was indeed a life saver. Saved my life for sure numerous times. I had to remind myself that I am not, in fact, invincible. And was really curious about what can actually kill me. At last, I got an answer:) Well, whatever kills you makes you stronger. I will be better prepared next time.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ilya Bely, level 20 Arch-Vile 1st Lieutenant Scout,
 was eaten alive by a nightmare demon on level 64 of Hell.
 He survived 324333 turns and scored 892429 points.
 He played for 6 hours, 19 minutes and 17 seconds.
 He was a man of Ultra-Violence!

 He killed 2265 out of 2274 hellspawn. (99%)
 He was a real killing machine...
 He was an Angel of 100!

 He saved himself once.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 0
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Experience Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 374731/20
  ToHit Ranged +4  ToHit Melee +4  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Son of a gun     (Level 4)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)
    Cateye           (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->Int->Int->TH->MCe->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->EE->EE->Fin->SoB->Jug->SoG->SoG->SoG->SoG->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   storm combat pistol (1d9)x2 [29/29] (B1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   assault shotgun (10d3) [0/6] (P3T1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] hyperblaster (2d5)x3 [40/40] (P1)
    [b] minigun (1d6)x8 [439/439] (B3)
    [c] minigun (1d6)x8 [439/439] (B3)
    [d] missile launcher (6d6) [8/8] (B3)
    [e] napalm launcher (7d7) [1/1] (B3)
    [f] tactical armor [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x71)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] shotgun shell (x27)
    [l] rocket (x6)
    [m] power cell (x50)
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] firestorm weapon pack
    [p] Hell Staff
    [q] Enviroboots [0]
    [r] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [s] shell box (x100)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    None

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    150 former humans
    216 former sergeants
    198 former captains
    205 imps
    34 demons
    308 lost souls
    59 cacodemons
    105 hell knights
    252 barons of hell
    126 arachnotrons
    22 former commandos
    29 pain elementals
    111 revenants
    151 mancubi
    161 arch-viles
    31 nightmare imps
    30 nightmare cacodemons
    55 nightmare demons
    10 nightmare arachnotrons
    12 bruiser brothers

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 11 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  On level 15 he assembled a burst cannon!
  On level 18 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 18 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  On level 18 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 19 he found the Hell Staff!
  On level 24 he assembled a storm bolter pistol!
  On level 28 he stumbled into complex full of arch-viles!
  He sounded the alarm on level 30!
  On level 33 he encountered an armed nuke!
  On level 34 he assembled a cerberus armor!
  On level 44 he found the Enviroboots!
  Level 45 blasted him with unholy atmosphere!
  On level 49 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  He sounded the alarm on level 50!
  On level 53 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  On level 64 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  On level 64 he finally was eaten alive by a nightmare demon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The nightmare demon dies. The nightmare demon dies.
 You reload the assault shotgun. The nightmare demon misses you.
 You see : a nightmare demon (wounded) | blood | [ m ]ore
 You reload the assault shotgun. The nightmare demon hits you. The nightmare
 demon hits you.
 You see : a nightmare demon (heavily wounded) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The nightmare demon hits you.
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed. The nightmare demon hits
 you. The nightmare demon hits you.
 You use a Hell Staff. You feel yanked in an non-existing direction! The
 nightmare demon hits you.
 You swap your weapons instantly!
 You reload the storm combat pistol. The nightmare demon hits you. The
 nightmare demon hits you. Your cerberus phaseshift armor is completely
 destroyed! You die!... Press <Enter>...
 You see : floor

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 139 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 129 of those were killed.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 9 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 killed the bitch and survived.
 6 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Re: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 10:18 »

Not switching to Tactical Armor at the start of the level is what killed you, I think. Cerberus phaseshift gives a 5% net drop in movespeed, A-modded Tac Armor gives 30% improvement. I don't think the 30% melee resist was worth it. You would have moved significantly faster than the demons, giving you a lot more time to deal with them. Hyperblaster would have probably been better than the assault shotgun, reloading those things takes forever without reloader.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2013, 10:22 by Napsterbater »
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Re: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 10:33 »

Well, that too. There were not much space where to run, and demons were literally everywhere, but probably I could run in circles.
But mostly, I was just not familiar enough with such particular type of monsters, and too adrenaline-striked to stop and think thoroughly, read their wiki entry, look hard at my inventory, etc.
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Re: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 11:12 »

I tought cerberus armor ms malus was always -30%... let me guess, it's *original* -30% ?

I'll have to try it now :D  I love cerberi toys, but the ms malus is soooo annoying.

Also, I probably never saw an armor under -30% (put gothic aside :p) is it capped, or do I just not pay enough attention ? I remember making cerberus with red and blue armors (a long time ago... when I was young and inexerimented :p), and I think the ms was only -30%
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Re: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 11:29 »

Cerberus has a lot of fixed stats, irrelevant to base armor. Speed, protection, acid/fire/plasma are all fixed.
So, best bet is to make it from something like duelist, or onyx. But phaseshift one also has 30 melee/shrapnel/bullet res, and give set bonus with phase boots. Too bad I found no phase boots. And only duelist armor I have seen that run was picked up by sergeant, that subsequently drown in lava. Bastard.
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Re: [U|Ao100|99%|64|YASD] Too many nightmare demons, too small cave
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 06:31 »

You had Enviroboots. You could clear this level without touching any weapon.
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