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Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« on: March 29, 2013, 02:18 »

Just sitting on the floor, mocking me
during my ao100 UV 100% game on level 53

now I can't continue until I figure this one out :3.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 02:24 »

inb4 spoilers on how to obtain dragonslayer

Have you tried leaving the floor and coming back to it later?
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 02:35 »

First thing I tried was the berserk pack, but that obviously didn't work. I think ill watch the anime first before I even move :P.
I'm not sure if I want to be permanently berserk the rest of the game, but I also don't want to miss anything special (if there is any) by not wielding it.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 02:41 »

Lucky you... I've never even seen the dragonslayer, not to mention wielded it. I did find the berserker armour twice, but I'd really love to have chance to try to grab this bigass sword.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 04:21 »

well... Anyway you got it in "Rare and unique found list". But how wield them... Oh, man :)) I don't know too. See at my sign part.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 04:24 »

Lucky you... I've never even seen the dragonslayer, not to mention wielded it. I did find the berserker armour twice, but I'd really love to have chance to try to grab this bigass sword.
Same. Let's hope we find in some future ao100 run or something.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 05:29 »

Yeah, finding DS is pretty much my strongest motivation for playing Ao100...

Edit: Hmm... according to my very inaccurate and probably wrong calculations, you should find DS on average every 6 finished Ao100 games...
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 11:21 »

I read one of 2Dev's mortems a long time ago, he mentioned damageless N! run up to UC to get Dragonslayer to drop every time. I figured this would be a great way to experiment with the Dragonslayer so I was trying to reproduce this.

Since getting all the way to UC damageless on standard N! is out of my league, I tested this with AoOC instead and I managed to get "damageless 100%" by clearing out a pain elemental cave right before UC. I also took under 50 damage in another attempt on the first floor of AoOC, and took *no* damage on UC (basically just grabbed two invulnerability globes right before and ran straight to the AoD). The former dropped an Azrael's Scythe, the latter dropped the Longinus Spear. No Dragonslayer. It may be restricted to standard games =(
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2013, 11:24 »

I read one of 2Dev's mortems a long time ago, he mentioned damageless N! run up to UC to get Dragonslayer to drop every time. I figured this would be a great way to experiment with the Dragonslayer so I was trying to reproduce this.

Since getting all the way to UC damageless on standard N! is out of my league, I tested this with AoOC instead and I managed to get "damageless 100%" by clearing out a pain elemental cave right before UC. I also took under 50 damage in another attempt on the first floor of AoOC, and took *no* damage on UC (basically just grabbed two invulnerability globes right before and ran straight to the AoD). The former dropped an Azrael's Scythe, the latter dropped the Longinus Spear. No Dragonslayer. It may be restricted to standard games =(

The way I remembered it, he mentioned damageless run to be one of possible triggers for DS spawning in UC. It's likely that there's more to it than that.

In any case, damageless first level of AoOC is way out of my league as well.. =(
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2013, 15:04 »

Me and my friend speculated about that and he suspects that you need to do some number(about 4 or so) of special levels damageless. Arena and some others. You're not required to play entirely damageless, that's for sure.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2013, 15:31 »

Me and my friend speculated about that and he suspects that you need to do some number(about 4 or so) of special levels damageless. Arena and some others. You're not required to play entirely damageless, that's for sure.
It is required for spawn DS in UC (of N! skill level of course), but not for picking it up. DS ia also can be spawned absolutly randomly, even in non-Ao100 run.
Also I think that DS is more likely to spawn in one Arch100 game that in seven Ao100 games because any unique may can be generated only one time per game.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2013, 18:54 »

I've only gotten the guaranteed DS to spawn once in this game.  This shows that it doesn't have to be a standard game, (this one was AoMC) and it doesn't have to be completely damageless.  (I had taken some damage by the time I reached UC)  As Appuru said, it can't be done in AoOC, (I made an attempt at it and managed to clear Hell 1 and UC damageless and still only got the Longinus Spear) but I don't think you have to have Conqueror by that point to get it.  (In the above-mentioned mortem, I failed to clear one of the levels, and I think it was Halls of Carnage that I missed, since that's the only one listed in the mortem that doesn't explicitly state that I cleared it)

Also I think that DS is more likely to spawn in one Arch100 game that in seven Ao100 games because any unique may can be generated only one time per game.

Hopefully, I'm about to find out, because I'm playing an AAo666 game right now.  :)  I have a new theory about how to pick it up, so I hope to get the chance to try it.  :)
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2013, 19:03 »

That wasn't too hard
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2013, 19:16 »

Damn!  Someone else beat me to it!  :|  I really hope my theory is correct; it would be a good time for me to get it in this game, because I'm playing with a melee build and I've already found the Berserker Armor!
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2013, 01:13 »

It is required for spawn DS
That's exactly what i meant, i know that picking it up has nothing to do with spawning it as it can be randomized.

Added: i met DS once and i gave up on trying to figure out the way to pick it up. So now i only hope that it doesn't spawn to taunt me.
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