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Author Topic: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me  (Read 75018 times)

Kornel Kisielewicz

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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 02:34 »

Just to make it clear - DS is a regular drop, but there is a way to make it spawn in UC in a fully non-random way (requires skill though).
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2013, 08:07 »

I've met DS several times and I can tell you that these do not work on picking it up:

-Both hands free
-Low health
-No armor
-100% kills
-Overhealed
-While berserk with none or one or more of the above

and honestly I'm thinking the new way of picking it up is something super simple that I am hoping to test next time around I see it, which is pretty much to try the "use" button instead of 'pick it up' button. Doubt it will work but hey who knows.
Too bad it has appeared in ages for me.

Though honestly, I am more interested on seeing it with the combination of berserk armor. I don't think anyone has yet done a game with both of them weilded yet?
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2013, 08:55 »

[REDACTED PER REQUEST. APOLOGIES]
« Last Edit: March 30, 2013, 11:00 by IronBeer »
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2013, 09:05 »

Could you spoiler the list of things you tried as well? I don't want any advice. Or rather, I want to know everything, but I want to figure it out myself even more =)
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2013, 14:20 »

Darn it, Fanta Hege!  That's what I was thinking of doing!  If it works, I'm gonna seem unoriginal!  :P  Well, I'll have to think up some more DS-wielding theories in any case.  Like you say, maybe that one is too obvious.  Also, like Klear requested, you might want to put your theories in spoiler tags.

Though honestly, I am more interested on seeing it with the combination of berserk armor. I don't think anyone has yet done a game with both of them weilded yet?

2Dev did it a few times.

Also, Firstblood.

Maybe others; I don't know.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2013, 15:12 »

Well, now its my turn to stay and look at that edged rail.
I even have looked through berserk manga with all that naked shota stuff and I still do not know what to do (I shouldn't have rocket launcher to take that sword, right? RIGHT? Because I haven't. And remember about UC, after all.)
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2013, 16:27 »

It's really awkward seeing people theorize about how to pick it up.  Honestly I'm not sure how anyone figured it out just by experimenting.  I don't think I ever would have figured it out, if I'd ever even seen it :/

I'm simultaneously curious if 2Dev correctly deduced the special spawn requirement for the Dragonslayer.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2013, 17:52 »

Berserker armor has -70% move speed according to the wiki. Am I missing something, or is it just really bad?
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2013, 18:29 »

Most bulky armor has hefty -movespeed. It usually has high melee resistance to compensate. There's nothing wrong with that. You can just stand there and tank their melee attacks while you attack them.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2013, 06:10 »

Most bulky armor has hefty -movespeed. It usually has high melee resistance to compensate. There's nothing wrong with that. You can just stand there and tank their melee attacks while you attack them.
IF you ever reach them before dying that is.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2013, 08:25 »

I have a feeling the Berserker Armor confers extra bonuses when combined with DS that aren't listed in the Wiki.  For one thing, all the mortems with people wearing it show a defensive strength of 4, whereas normally, it says 0.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2013, 09:33 »

Or possible if berserk in general, with or without DS.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2013, 12:21 »

I was under the impression that you can't wear the Berserker Armor unless you're wielding DS.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I certainly haven't seen any mortems with people wearing the armour, but not wielding DS.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2013, 15:52 »

Hi,

I have been lurking on this board for quite some time but this is my first post, so hello everyone!

Well, some days ago I was playing an Angel of 666 where I first found the Berserk Armor and then on level 60 the Dragonslayer. Well, was awesome for a while but after some time I became a little bored. I have to admit that I carried the armor around until about the last level (the move speed of that thing kinda kept me from wearing it right away) so until then I was breezing through from exit to exit (lame, I know, but it really became boring after a while...) with a Malek´s armor, Nyarlaptotep´s boots while being Blademaster :-) I was actually hoping to find the Dragonslayer but not that early, lol.

Also, when I killed the Apostle there was some weird error message. I would have posted my mortem but couldn´t figure out how to do so, but if anyone could tell me I would post it (in case anyone wants to read it).

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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2013, 18:00 »

Hi,

I have been lurking on this board for quite some time but this is my first post, so hello everyone!

Well, some days ago I was playing an Angel of 666 where I first found the Berserk Armor and then on level 60 the Dragonslayer. Well, was awesome for a while but after some time I became a little bored. I have to admit that I carried the armor around until about the last level (the move speed of that thing kinda kept me from wearing it right away) so until then I was breezing through from exit to exit (lame, I know, but it really became boring after a while...) with a Malek´s armor, Nyarlaptotep´s boots while being Blademaster :-) I was actually hoping to find the Dragonslayer but not that early, lol.

Also, when I killed the Apostle there was some weird error message. I would have posted my mortem but couldn´t figure out how to do so, but if anyone could tell me I would post it (in case anyone wants to read it).

Greets
chag
Hi. You shold put all text from your mortem txt (which is stored in doomrl/mortem) between tags.
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