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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #135 on: May 11, 2013, 19:12 »

No, the mod does NOT force the DS to drop. The game dropped it normally  by following the rules of the npc. I actually did a run of the tourist mod before I took that snapshot and did NOT get the DS/BA, only Azarel's Sythe and the Angelic armor as usual.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2013, 02:14 »

By far the stupidest idea I had in trying to lift the DS up was checking to see that if I happened to die, while berserk, while standing on the damn thing, unarmed, in the hopes that the dang sword would happen to save my life. Needless to say, all that effort climbing down Ao100 went to waste. A tiny voice in my head, which was probably the voice of reason, went "well, should've seen that one coming"...

The thing taunts me so many times in Ao100 and 666. I figured that at least at 666 levels I'd get a chance to get both that and the armor. No dice. Just one of them, and a lot of uniques. With my successful run, my whole inventory was a cart full of uniques, since I went with OP gear that's more practical and boring and effective, with no need to hang on to more than two medpacks.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2013, 06:42 »

I actually think I have a theory that might work to pick up the DS/BA. It really isn't that hard to wrap your mind around, actually.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2013, 08:54 »

Finally found Dragonslayer + Berserk Armor in my Ao666 Blademaster run. I also read quite a bit of the Berserk! manga
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So now - troll mode on:

It sucks! - Here's why:
 - It turns the game into black and red mode. "What is that mod pack there?" Go and [l]ook!
 - "Let's blast this wall with the rocket launcher - doh, it's cursed!"
 - The ripper does more dps on average (If you are already berserk).
 - Unless you are surrounded by cyberdemons, there is no reason to ever use whirlwind.

That was for the dragonslayer, the berserk armor is worse, because of the crazy movespeed malus (-70%). Before wearing it I could basically kill everything before it had a chance to move (Antigrav boots (x2.5) + HR3 (x1.8)  + scout berserk (x1.6) = 2.5x1.8x1.6 ~= 7x basic movement speed, Berserker Armor (x1/1.7) cuts it down to ~4x basic movement speed). If you find it, consider staying with another armor for a while. Even a PTA modded blue or red armor is better.

3rd Edit: Corrected info on movement speed. Berserk gives 50% Bonus which is added to the 10% scout bonus (not multiplied) for a total of 1.6. The berserker armor malus was calculated wrongly.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2013, 10:44 by siwucha »
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2013, 09:52 »

Your post would take benefit of some spoiler tags.
I don't care much about being spoiled personally, but we should respect the (stupid :o)) sercrecy surrounding DS.

Also, I agree with the red screen, but it's not DS specific... if, like me, you hate red screen, just avoid playing melee.

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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2013, 09:53 »

@siwucha

Agree by all points. The best if you have a Butchers Cleaver and you are technician with MMB trait. And do not wear BA even if you find it. Best if A- or P- modded cerberus onyx armor - you gain 95% resist to everything. Of course,
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in other cases, DS only a thing for get some badges, but not a really good weapon. Because red screen, cursed, and not too good by damage. Some modded or assembled and modded weapon have better dps.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #141 on: May 12, 2013, 12:24 »

This really has gotten out of control. Ah, I still remember the days when we were trolling everyone that Megaspheres exist...
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2013, 18:24 »

Okay. Here's a summary of what we know:

* How to DROP the DS/BA every time

and here's what we DON'T know:

* How to pick up the DS every time
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2013, 07:18 »

This really has gotten out of control. Ah, I still remember the days when we were trolling everyone that Megaspheres exist...

i heard if you defeat mortuary without damage you'll see a megasphere spawn
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #144 on: May 16, 2013, 07:13 »

i heard if you defeat mortuary without damage you'll see a megasphere spawn

I also heard this, but you have to do this on UV at least, with knife or bar knuckles
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #145 on: May 16, 2013, 12:51 »

I've cleared Mortuary without taking damage before and didn't get a Megasphere.  I have to admit I've never done it with my fists, though.  :)
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #146 on: May 16, 2013, 18:04 »

I know there's something missing here that I can't figure out, and it shouldn't be that hard.

How to pick up the DS? All we need to know is how to pick up the DS, the Berserker Armor will fall into place after that.
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2013, 03:44 »

I've cleared Mortuary without taking damage before and didn't get a Megasphere.  I have to admit I've never done it with my fists, though.  :)

That doesn't gurantee you will get a megasphere. It only increases you chance to get one.

Also there is a rumor that if you defeat the Hell Gate without any damage on UV at least, a partial-invisibility power up might appear on next level (I think it's a temporary powerup)
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2013, 07:05 »

That doesn't gurantee you will get a megasphere. It only increases you chance to get one.

Also there is a rumor that if you defeat the Hell Gate without any damage on UV at least, a partial-invisibility power up might appear on next level (I think it's a temporary powerup)

Oh yeah! I got that once, but I died before I could pick it up =/
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Re: Oh dragonslayer why do you taunt me
« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2013, 09:52 »

Oh yeah! I got that once, but I died before I could pick it up =/

That certainly sounds damageless...
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