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[M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« on: March 31, 2013, 13:40 »

Starting as a scout with Int2 I easily get Arena damageless. On Hell 7 I have a 374 total damage gained, the first time have a chance for Untouchable badge. Mastermind was nuked (I got Invul just before descending to Dis), I run to JC and fire nuclear BFG... I have a lava element and think "test this gun then overcharge and use lava element and..." Nuclear overcharge need fully loaded weapon :( don't know it. So, I kill JC in ordinary, not so devastating way. And looks as HNTR not a challenge for me any more - I win 3 medium difficulty Angel game in a row (well, Marksman was only partial win but so close to full...)
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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Grey, level 14 Cacodemon Warrant Officer Scout,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 120424 turns and scored 150500 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 47 minutes and 4 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 762 out of 762 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Max Carnage!

 He saved himself 5 times.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 10
  Levels completed : 10

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Cyberdemon's Head
  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Untouchable Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Angelic Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Arena Key
  Armorer Silver Badge
  Heroic Silver Badge
  Gatekeeper Gold Badge
  Reaper Bronze Badge
  Reaper Silver Badge
  Reaper Gold Badge
  Destroyer Bronze Badge
  Destroyer Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 63/50   Experience 80494/14
  ToHit Ranged +12  ToHit Melee +12  ToDmg Ranged +5  ToDmg Melee +5

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 5)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)
    Cateye           (Level 1)

  Int->Int->Fin->Jug->Fin->WK->WK->SoB->SoB->TH->MCe->SoB->SoB->SoB->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   energy-shielded vest [3/3] (80%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   burst chaingun (1d9)x6 [73/80] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Nyarlaptotep's Boots [6/6] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   10mm ammo chain (x184)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical shotgun (9d3) [0/5] (P1)
    [b] hyperblaster (2d4)x3 [40/40]
    [c] minigun (1d6)x8 [200/200]
    [d] missile launcher (6d6) [5/5] (B1)
    [e] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d6) [8/40]
    [f] BFG 9000 (10d6) [10/130] (B1)
    [g] fireproof blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [h] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [i] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [j] Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%)
    [k] shotgun shell (x70)
    [l] rocket (x14)
    [m] power cell (x70)
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] lava element
    [s] Hellwave Pack
    [t] cerberus protective boots [0/0] (100%)
    [u] shell box (x100)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 30% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 30% 
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    106 former humans
    53 former sergeants
    19 former captains
    80 imps
    50 demons
    218 lost souls
    47 cacodemons
    36 hell knights
    40 barons of hell
    42 arachnotrons
    3 former commandos
    14 pain elementals
    11 revenants
    12 mancubi
    15 arch-viles
    5 elite former humans
    2 elite former sergeants
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 9 he assembled a burst cannon!
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 9 he assembled a micro launcher!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 14 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 19 he found the Hellwave Pack!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Mega Buster!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 21 he assembled a cerberus boots!
  On level 22 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  On level 22 he found the Nyarlaptotep's Boots!
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He nuked level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul!
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 You are hit!
 You prepare the tactical shotgun instantly!
 You hear an explosion!
 The baron of hell dies. You are hit!
 You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You
 advance to level 14! Press <Enter>...
 You prepare the nuclear BFG 9000 instantly!
 You dodge!
 You prepare the burst chaingun instantly!
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John
 Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations!
 You defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 16 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 9 of those were killed.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 5 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 2 killed the bitch and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2013, 14:54 »

Hm.  Maybe we should nerf the damageless medals by making Int verboten.  ;-)

Nice win though!
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2013, 18:33 »

Are you serious ? I'm sure int is a "noob" pick, since it lessens your DPS. (well, I love it, I must admit :/). But I'm sure "pro" players all prefer picking MAc.

Anway, there's an easier way to get untouchable medal : speedrun the game on ITYTD :)
Well, this may be quite lame... but it works, everytime !
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 23:06 »

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I'm sure int is a "noob" pick, since it lessens your DPS.
yes! That is why I never choose it at start before. Try once, die and then as a rule start from something like SoG/SoB/Bru/Fin. But on AoMC DPS is good :)
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 23:21 »

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 Grey, level 14 Cacodemon Warrant Officer Scout,
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 He didn't like it too rough.

Level 14 on HNTR? Is this an AoMC thing? In a standard game, I have to mow down everthing to reach 11, maybe 12...
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 03:38 »

Level 14 on HNTR? Is this an AoMC thing? In a standard game, I have to mow down everthing to reach 11, maybe 12...

He also visited all of the generated levels except Unholy Cathedral.
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 03:41 »

He also visited all of the generated levels except Unholy Cathedral.

Yup it's really a huge difference xp-wise doing all the specials, especially levels such as the Mortuary.

As for early intuition yea, it's probably by far the best thing to get early in AoMc, even more so if you plan to go for untouchable badges/medals.

You already have huge dmg and huge accuracy in AoMc, so what better than to see AND kill your enemies before they even get a chance?

AoMc should really have the following tag imo:

"Shooting in the dark has never been easier and more effective."
« Last Edit: April 01, 2013, 05:26 by Radagast »
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 04:57 »

He also visited all of the generated levels except Unholy Cathedral.

I usually skip the Mortuary - I'm not confident enough to have just any build waltz through it - and I only do the UC on melee builds. I do tend to do all the other special levels. It can't be that the Mortuary and UC make 2+ clev difference, right?
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 05:27 »

First, at Mortuary we gain experience for killing again ressurected demons. Once per kill but ... A lot of bodies here!
Second, last 14th level I got when kill Hell Barons spawned at random places on level - may be because I shoot JC from my LOS, not his... and it counts as "shoot from dark".

from my previous games,
ITYTD: YAAM Conqueror ~10-11 lvl
HNTR: YAAM Conqueror ~12-13 lvl. If I would nuke JC, may be 13 would be the cap.
HMP: YAAM Conqueror ~14 lvl. You have 14 lvl when enter Dis. And sometimes 14/70-80% but Mastermind+JC not enough for 15.
do not know about UV, but suppose not more then 16 lvl at final battle. May be even 15.
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 05:32 »

I usually skip the Mortuary - I'm not confident enough to have just any build waltz through it - and I only do the UC on melee builds. I do tend to do all the other special levels. It can't be that the Mortuary and UC make 2+ clev difference, right?

Not sure, but do keep in mind that mortuary is huge xp just for the archviles, add to that the resurrected monsters which also give xp, and you might have a lvl where you can actually get more than one whole level up. (1 and a portion of the next one probably, since I can't really remember getting 2 levels in there ever)
AoD does give relatively good xp too.

But I mainly think it also depends heavily on the RNG spawning. I some times had empty dungeon levels with relatively few enemies, cacofiend caves come to mind for example, or some times a level with 2 archviles and lesser creatures that I end up emptying without getting too much total xp, since the rest of the level is actually empty. Other times though, I get a level filled with endless hordes of mancubi/revenants/barons/archviles. It's just too random. You might end up lvl 12-13 but you might also end up 15. That's the RNG for you I guess. :P

And JC Random Spawns add to that too.
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 12:19 »

Whoa, what?  I'm gonna double check that when I get the chance, but I'm pretty sure the resurrected creatures in the Mortuary don't give you experience.  Only the Arch-Viles do.  (Though Arch-Viles by themselves do give you quite a bit of experience)  Otherwise, that level would give you ludicrous amounts of experience, especially at Nightmare! where there are extra Mancubi!

The same with JC's minions.
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Re: [M|AoMC|100% YAAM] my first Untouchable badge
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2013, 06:40 »

ok, I'm not sure... but really if you complete Mortuary in hard way (killing a hordes but not using sculls or BFG for bodies), you on HNTR get an extra level. 5-6 arch-viles do not enough for that.
And minions do not have experience. But summon when shoot JC from out of LOS have. Look in messages - I'v got a 14 level when killing some barons spawned on level.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul!
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 You are hit!
 You prepare the tactical shotgun instantly!
 You hear an explosion!
 The baron of hell dies. You are hit!
 You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You
 advance to level 14! Press <Enter>...
 You prepare the nuclear BFG 9000 instantly!
 You dodge!
 You prepare the burst chaingun instantly!
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John
 Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations!
 You defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...
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