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Author Topic: [N!|AoB/AoOC|32%|4|YASD?] (Longinus Diamond) Well that's...one way.  (Read 2144 times)

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 E, level 4 Arch-Vile Lt. Colonel Marine,
 was bruised by a baron of hell on level 4 of Hell.
 He survived 5558 turns and scored 42397 points.
 He played for 7 minutes and 26 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 56 out of 174 hellspawn. (32%)
 He was an Angel of Berserk!
 He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 4
  Levels visited   : 1
  Levels completed : 1

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Longinus Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/60   Experience 6140/4
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Tough as nails   (Level 1)

  Fin->Fin->HR->TaN->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Dragonslayer (9d9)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   nothing
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] Longinus Spear (8d8)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Fire       - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    6 imps
    22 demons
    22 lost souls
    2 arachnotrons
    1 pain elemental
    2 mancubi
    1 Angel of Death

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  Level 1 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
  On level 1 he found the Dragonslayer!
  On level 1 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 1 he found the Longinus Spear!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  He left level 2 as soon as possible.
  On level 3 he was targeted for extermination!
  Entering level 4 he was almost dead...
  On level 4 he finally was bruised by a baron of hell.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood! There is power cell (x40) lying here.
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You dodge! Boom! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 263 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 224 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 4 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 14 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 20 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 14 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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I suppose this is a death, it wasn't very stupid since not just one goal, but a second one I considered unbelievably long term, were accomplished.

The idea was simple; "Hey, how close can AoB/AoOC with an invinco come to getting Longinus Diamond?". Get an invinco close to the stairs, and use the Chainsaw drop berserk trick, and go go go. Level Finesse/Hellrunner so you get more turns invinco. Simple idea, and while it takes an amazing amount of tries(You do not get this combination of factors fast), it seems worth trying. I got Longinus Platinum without knowing about the Chainsaw trick...how hard can it be?

The logic here being that, since I know the general tactic for getting this normally involves doing laps around the lava pool for 30 minutes or so, that even a huge amount of restarts can be done in a short enough span of time so that it's not actually that much slower.

The answer is that it can actually do it. I had a heartbreaking run where I actually downed the Angel, but was out of Medkits and died to the last few Demons filing in on top of his corpse. No big deal; The only good luck I'd gotten that run was getting the invinco in the right place, and a well placed Bulk pack, a Berserk pack on the way in, almost anything would have worked. (Probably doing the Chainsaw drop earlier than reaching the Demon horde would have too, in retrospect.)

So, play a little more for good RNG.

That's not...quite how I got it, though. I happened to see, not an Invinco on one run, but Dragonslayer.

So, I tried some suggestions from a friend (Well, specifically he mentioned what he was going to try if he saw it.), and I tried a few things and wait I picked it up?

...

I picked it up. Well then. Let's go see about a Diamond.

Sadly, I died a bit later-had to use up all my Medkits in the Cathedral, and the game gave me no healing in the two floors I dashed through, so I fell a bit short even with the amazing power of Dragonslayer.

And I'm still not entirely sure what I did that picked it up! Though I have a reasonably good idea.

But hey, I'm now extremely happy with this run. Worth ramming into the game for an hour before bed for. :)
« Last Edit: April 15, 2013, 21:12 by SageAcrin »
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That's gotta be a first; someone died with the Dragonslayer in hand!  O_o
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You know, I was thinking that too, when it happened.

But hey, it took two floors worth of firepower to kill me even with no armor, no other items, no healing and four levels to my name, in Hell, on N!. Two levels of which were devoted to Finesse, yet.

It's a hell of a weapon.

Edit: In retrospect, it might have been better to skip Cathedral and try to keep my Medkits, and try a real run of it instead of what I did. Though, I could have cleared with what I was doing...just needed some healing on the way, at all.

But eh...if I can get it once doing this, it can happen again. I'm not going to kick myself, and this was decent enough.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2013, 22:08 by SageAcrin »
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I just wanted to mention that finesse/hellrunner doesn't help to prolong invulnerability, since its length is measured in turns, not seconds. You can always make the same number of steps while invulnerable, no matter your movement speed.
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the general tactic for getting this normally involves doing laps around the lava pool for 30 minutes or so
I don't know if I'll ever do it again, but doing laps inside the cathedral feels way faster. Still needs a lot of time (I used unmodded knives ~~)
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I just wanted to mention that finesse/hellrunner doesn't help to prolong invulnerability, since its length is measured in turns, not seconds. You can always make the same number of steps while invulnerable, no matter your movement speed.

Yeah, I read about this in another thread right after I was done.

Not really a big deal, though. That makes the optimal Trait to build for this particular method...SoB, and while SoB would probably add up, it's still only a few points of bonus damage. Even against 10 armor, there's only so much it can help.

Had I known, I might have just built Hellrunner instead, so that more runs got to the Invinco/stairs.

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(I used unmodded knives ~~)

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