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[U|AoMC+AoOC|YAAM] Nerf Overconfidence

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Evilpotatoe:
MC is probably the easiest, but OC makes things very easy too.

You don't have to survive bosses (especially anomaly's ambush), start with decent stuff, and can even scum for good (read overly lucky) start if necessary.
You may even play it the AoPC way, rush the mortuary for the nuke, and blast MM.
Needing some luck over 7 levels is way much easier than needing luck through 24.

I "won" a N! game in 5 minutes as AoB+AoOc, while I just wanted to check starting gear... spawned near demons, chain-sawed them to see how it goes, got zerk, pwned MM.
Going thru 3 episodes, needing to find CC for chainsaw, etc... would have been way more difficult :)

skarczew:

--- Quote from: tdef on May 06, 2013, 08:35 ---i don't see how OC makes anything easier, if you can survive hell underleveled and average gear (it's very unlikely you don't find/mod something better than minigun/assault shotty by the time you reach hell) what prevents you to do the same with 10+ more levels and full equipment?

the real game breaker imo is MC which allows you to kill anything before it puts their guaranteed max damage to fruition (as i still see tons of dodges in mc) as soon you get a chaingun which happens on level 2 on HMP+ (or straight away with OC, only here i can agree that makes stuff easier)

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AoOC is easier than AoC for me (look at THAT shotgun). Now, add AoMC to it and you have just a walk in the park. Free exp is just everywhere, just kill some fat Mancubus ass.

Sereg:
Yeah, you catch up on XP rather quickly - with a good start.

The idea of AoOC isn't that it's necessarily easier; it's just spammable. You can die a hell of a lot more times then you would starting from Phobos, but you can restart and be back where you were a lot faster, too, so it's kind of a time saver that way.

Personally I've played a few hundred AoOC games looking for Veteran and Berserker Platinum today, with no luck(almost got Berserker, but forgot to use my nuke and tried to finish off the Mastermind without any large medkits - oops).

AoMC can be easier, provided you're decent at damage evasion. If you're not, it has the potential to make things a lot worse. On that note, wish me luck on my current AoMC+Ao100 UV attempt... 

grommile:
The thing is, Hell 1's difficulty feels a lot fairer than the difficulty of the Phobos Base Entry setpiece.

tdef:
for anything MC non berserk just go int2 + Cateye, unless you get VERY bad spawns when descending without phases you should be fine

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