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[siwucha]

Wouldn't have thought it possible: This is even better than the original Diablo. Very cool game. Also more fast-paced, even though turn based.

Sorcerer is quite powerful, because of manashield - until you run into too many fireimmune monsters. Since lightning spells are not implemented yet, the only way to deal with them is melee + golem + stone curse (stone curse wears off in this version when you attack the monster, but still can be used to block enemies you aren't dealing with at the moment), which is very tedious. So I started teleporting around --> YASD.

Linux version (64bit) worked fine, but I got a crash when I turned sound on, so I switched to windows + wine for the time being.


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  DiabloRL v 0.5.0 roguelike postmortem character dump
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  momo, level 20 Sorcerer, killed by a obsidian lord in Caves, level 11.
  He scored 382436.67 points, killing 0 hellspawn.

  He advanced to level 20 gaining 1143667 experience.
  He amassed 1796 gold coins.
  He killed the Butcher.
  He granted eternal rest to the Skeleton King.
  He retrieved Ogden's tavern sign.
  He learned the Guardian spell.
  He cleared Halls of Blind.

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Strength   29/29
  Magic      151/118
  Dexterity  15/15
  Vitality   32/32

  Life 71/-8  Mana 370/1
  Armor 18  ToHit 57

-- Spells ----------------------------------------------------

  Firebolt level 14
  Holy Bolt level 13
  Healing level 13
  Town Portal level 4
  Stone Curse level 1
  Mana Shield level 2
  Fireball level 5
  Guardian level 3
  Golem level 1
  Teleport level 1

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

  [ Head ] crown of Brilliance [11]
  [ Neck ] Optic amulet
  [ Body ] nothing
  [ Wpn  ] Jagged sabre of Light (1-8)
  [ Shld ] Pearl small shield of Brilliance [7]
  [ RRng ] ring of the Jaguar
  [ LRng ] The Bleeder

-- Quickslots ------------------------------------------------

  [ Slot1 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot2 ] scroll of mana shield
  [ Slot5 ] potion of full mana
  [ Slot6 ] potion of mana
  [ Slot7 ] potion of mana
  [ Slot8 ] potion of mana

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

  1796 gold coins
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  potion of full mana
  Azure mail of the Wolf [19]
  short battle bow (3-7)
  cloak [7]

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

  Rotcarnage
  Bongo
  Gutshank the Quick
  Shadowdrinker
  Wrathraven
  Deathshade Fleshmaul
  Blighthorn Steelmace
  Goblight of the Flame
  Blackstorm
  the Butcher
  Skeleton King
  Snotspill

  15 * zombie
  36 * ghoul
  35 * skeleton
  29 * burning dead
  54 * horror
  16 * skeleton captain
  65 * burning dead captain
  116 * horror captain
  46 * skeleton archer
  16 * corpse bow
  2 * burning dead archer
  85 * horror archer
  43 * scavenger
  34 * plague eater
  25 * shadow beast
  39 * fallen one
  25 * fallen one
  90 * carver
  66 * devil kin
  48 * devil kin
  124 * dark one
  43 * dark one
  18 * fiend
  31 * blink
  38 * gloom
  76 * familiar
  55 * stone clan
  188 * night clan
  47 * stone clan archer
  132 * hidden
  44 * stalker
  13 * unseen
  4 * overlord
  75 * horned demon
  89 * obsidian lord
  204 * blood stone
  131 * gargoyle
  64 * blood claw
  79 * poison spitter
  15 * pit beast

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You drink the potion of full mana. You feel magically fully restored.
 Momo casts Fireball. The pit beast dies. You gain 2266 experience. The pit
 beast dies. You gain 2266 experience. The obsidian lord dies. You gain 1628
 experience.
 Momo casts Fireball. The pit beast dies. You gain 2266 experience.
 Momo casts Teleport.
 Momo casts Teleport.
 You open the chest.
 Momo casts Fireball. The obsidian lord dies. You gain 1628 experience. The
 obsidian lord dies. You gain 1628 experience.
 Momo casts Fireball. The obsidian lord dies. You gain 1628 experience. The
 flayed one hits you.
 Momo casts Fireball. The flayed one is unaffected. The pit beast dies. You
 gain 2266 experience.
 Momo casts Teleport.
 Momo casts Teleport.
 Momo casts Fireball. The pit beast dies. You gain 2266 experience. The pit
 beast dies. You gain 2266 experience.
 Momo casts Fireball. The pit beast dies. You gain 2266 experience. The
 obsidian lord hits you. The obsidian lord hits you. The obsidian lord hits You

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[ryballs]

stone curse wears off in this version when you attack the monster

I don't think it was like that in the original diablo.. It should stay on for a certain amount of turns depending on the spell level and not be affected by other attacks.

I also noticed that all the 0.5.0 postmortem's show killed 0 Hellspawn.. Shouldn't that be in the hundreds?

Sorcerer sounds challenging, congrats on getting as far as you did. ;)

[skarczew]

I don't think it was like that in the original diablo.. It should stay on for a certain amount of turns depending on the spell level and not be affected by other attacks.

SC is obviously bugged. Period.

I also noticed that all the 0.5.0 postmortem's show killed 0 Hellspawn.. Shouldn't that be in the hundreds?

Was reported shortly before the release, but not fixed yet.

[siwucha]

Sorcerer sounds challenging, congrats on getting as far as you did. ;)

Thx. Actually I found it quite easy until fireimmunes started showing up. Just pump most of your points in mana. You will find enough books of firebolt to make it quite powerful, so for quite a while you can oneshot almost everything. Once you find manashield (staff or scrolls are also good for the beginning), also your defensive worries are gone. (I used a scroll of manashield for leoric, since I didn't have the spell yet).
So until you hit the caves it goes really well. Then the game switches from quite easy to very hard, since there is just no good way for a sorcerer to deal with fireimmunes (Golem + stone curse is possible, but you have to take it very slowly and it is not much fun).
Once there are lightning spells, this will be really cool.

[Psojed]

Or save some points for Dexterity and Strength, and get a <insert name> bow of lightning (+6 to +10 lightning dmg). Then get yourself some cover, use the lava lakes and fences and it's back to easy ;)

The real challenge for a sorcerer will come with HELL levels on HELL difficulty, since Advocates will probably deal TONS of damage and be immune to ALL spells ;)

[skarczew]

There are Flash scrolls, so there may be spellbooks as well. This should be working as long as Flash is working (which I doubt anyway :P ).
Alternatively, one could get a bow or other weapon and just whack everything (like I did against Warlord of Blood in original).

[Psojed]

Yes there is Book of Flash, but it's very rare. The damage is lower than Firebolt, manacost is higher, and many monsters are magic immune too.

[siwucha]

I indeed had overlooked the flash spell earlier, so I tried it out. The flash spell is quite rare, but Adria sells it and Adria also restocks when saving and loading (like in the original diablo), so no problem there. The lava lords are immune to magic, so no luck there, but they go down quickly to the golem. However the flayed ones, which were the major pain in the ass before, are merely resistant to magic and so can be killed with flash. At the end they went down after about three casts of flash. I included a screenshot of the spellbook at the end of the game, so you can see that at higher levels flash does quite decent damage (about on par with fireball). It also is not too expensive.

Many thanks for the hint!

Mortem spoilered because of length.

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  DiabloRL v 0.5.0 roguelike postmortem character dump
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  momo, level 22 Sorcerer, reached Hell.
  He scored 565426.106 points, killing 0 hellspawn.

  He advanced to level 22 gaining 2229646 experience.
  He amassed 48259 gold coins.
  He killed the Butcher.
  He purified the town water supply.
  He was patient with Gharbad the Weak.
  He uncovered the Arkaine's Valor.
  He learned the Guardian spell.
  He cleared Halls of Blind.
  He interrupted Zhar the Mad's studies.
  He was a sage. (+10%)
  He was a hypohondriac.

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Strength   28/20
  Magic      187/137
  Dexterity  25/17
  Vitality   41/22

  Life 82/82  Mana 416/387
  Armor 34  ToHit 62

-- Spells ----------------------------------------------------

  Firebolt level 15
  Holy Bolt level 13
  Healing level 14
  Town Portal level 3
  Flash level 10
  Stone Curse level 2
  Phasing level 2
  Mana Shield level 4
  Fireball level 8
  Guardian level 2
  Golem level 5
  Teleport level 1

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

  [ Head ] crown of Brilliance [14]
  [ Neck ] amulet of the Stars
  [ Body ] Amber armor of Brilliance [14]
  [ Wpn  ] mace of Brilliance (1-7)
  [ Shld ] Pearl buckler of Blocking [6]
  [ RRng ] Ring of Truth
  [ LRng ] ring of Vim

-- Quickslots ------------------------------------------------

  [ Slot1 ] scroll of mana shield
  [ Slot2 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot3 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot4 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot5 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot6 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot7 ] potion of full rejuvenation
  [ Slot8 ] potion of full rejuvenation

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

  48259 gold coins
  Optic amulet
  Blackoak Shield [18]
  mail of Sorcery [34]
  Brutal sword of Swiftness (2-6)
  Serpent's war staff of Swiftness (8-16)
  small axe of Slaying (2-10)
  mail of the Stars [17]

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

  Rotfeast the Hungry
  Soulpus
  Bongo
  Shadowdrinker
  Foulwing
  Blighthorn Steelmace
  Bloodskin Darkbow
  Breakspine
  the Butcher
  Gharbad
  Zhar the mad

  65 * zombie
  26 * ghoul
  88 * rotting carcass
  25 * skeleton
  28 * corpse axe
  33 * burning dead
  98 * horror
  11 * skeleton captain
  87 * horror captain
  45 * burning dead archer
  61 * scavenger
  52 * plague eater
  48 * shadow beast
  125 * bone gasher
  39 * fallen one
  43 * fallen one
  18 * carver
  67 * devil kin
  6 * dark one
  34 * blink
  81 * gloom
  74 * familiar
  3 * flesh clan
  70 * stone clan
  67 * fire clan
  140 * night clan
  83 * flesh clan archer
  66 * hidden
  13 * unseen
  53 * overlord
  262 * flayed one
  20 * horned demon
  200 * mud runner
  85 * obsidian lord
  203 * lava lord
  48 * winged demon
  69 * gargoyle
  90 * acid beast
  254 * pit beast

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 A amulet of Power is lying here.
 "I can't carry any more" A amulet of Power is lying here.
 Unknown command. Press Escape for menu and help file! A amulet of Power is
 lying here.
 You drop 5000 gold coins. A amulet of Power is lying here.
 You put the amulet of Power into your backpack.
 Griswold says : "What can I do for you?"
 You sold a amulet of Power for 1900 gold pieces.
 A pile of 5000 gold coins is lying here.
 You got 5000 gold coins.
 Griswold says : "What can I do for you?"
 Griswold repaired Amber armor of Brilliance for 155 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired Blackoak Shield for 300 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired mail of Sorcery for 1167 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired Brutal sword of Swiftness for 324 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired Serpent's war staff of Swiftness for 2211 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired small axe of Slaying for 239 gold pieces.
 Griswold repaired mail of the Stars for 2345 gold pieces.
 You feel yanked in a direction that never existed! Press < Enter >...
 Congratulations! You have won the Demo version! Press < Enter >...

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Press <Enter> to view, <Escape> to exit...                                     
 You got 164 gold coins.                                                       
..:....:.##                       ######ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Spells ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
..:....:..##                     ##.#...³                                      ³
..:....:...#####                 #.....#³ Firebolt      (L:15) 33-42 Cost: 3   ³
%.::::::.......###              ##..#...³ Holy Bolt     (L:13) 31-40 Cost: 3   ³
.................##            ##..##...³ Healing       (L:14) 37-182 Cost: 10 ³
...##..::::::..%..#            #...#....³ Town Portal   (L:3) Cost: 29         ³
######.:....:..%..###         ##...#...#³ Flash         (L:10) 107-214 Cost: 16³
    #..:....:.....%.###########........#³ Stone Curse   (L:2) Cost: 57         ³
    ##.::::+:.......................%...³ Phasing       (L:2) Cost: 10         ³
    #...............########.##....%%...³ Mana Shield   (L:4) Cost: 33         ³
#####.þ...#####....##      ####.%þ.%.%..³ Fireball      (L:8) 123-215 Cost: 10 ³
.##.....#.#   #....##        #.%........³ Guardian      (L:2) Cost: 48         ³
........###   ####..###      ##..##.....³ Golem         (L:5) Cost: 76         ³
::::':::##     #...@..##     #..####....³ Teleport      (L:1) Cost: 35         ³
.........#     #.......#     #.%.###....³ Close                                ³
#........#   ####......#######....##....³                                      ³
###......#####.......####....#...###....³                                      ³
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#..........##   #####   #. ##....###....³                                      ³
##..........#    #..#   #..#..%...#....=³                                      ³
..........%.#    #.##    #..........==.=³                                      ³
#####..##...###  #.####  ###..=======..=³                                      ³
    ######%...#  #.##.# #####%==========³                                      ³
         ##..#####....# #......%========³                                      ³
 ###     ##....#......###.....%.........³                                      ³
##.## ####..=....====......%.%#...#%....³                                      ³
....# #.....========.........##.%###....³                                      ³
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---######- [?!!!!!!!] ------------------------------ Caves, level 12 --......---
   ######  Fireball                                                    ######   
    ####                                                                ####   



[skarczew]

No problem.

I hope that Flash damage is fixed and area effect not-so-bugged as in original Diablo 1. We do not need to copy Diablo bugs into roguelike, Kornel, do we? :)

[siwucha]

No problem.

I hope that Flash damage is fixed and area effect not-so-bugged as in original Diablo 1. We do not need to copy Diablo bugs into roguelike, Kornel, do we? :)

I think this bug is not present in diablorl. I didn't notice any position dependency on the damage.